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  • jono2707
    Goes up to 11
    • Oct 2007
    • 3326

    Whilst I think Tommy is the sort of player who will continue to develop well and learn the game if he stays in the team, surely we couldn't give him the 2nd ruck job? Putting the additional burden of being second ruck has not exactly helped Jesse White, and it's not working too well with LRT either. Is the answer 2 rucks? Well not likely, from past experience, but I really hope Tommy doesn't get lumped with the role.....

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    • aardvark
      Veterans List
      • Mar 2010
      • 5685

      Originally posted by jono2707
      Whilst I think Tommy is the sort of player who will continue to develop well and learn the game if he stays in the team, surely we couldn't give him the 2nd ruck job? Putting the additional burden of being second ruck has not exactly helped Jesse White, and it's not working too well with LRT either. Is the answer 2 rucks? Well not likely, from past experience, but I really hope Tommy doesn't get lumped with the role.....
      I reckon Tommy would have been really disappointed with last weeks effort against his old team. I'd expect him to have a blinder if he gets a game again this week. As you say playing second ruck wouldn't help him at all. Hopefully Mummy and Pyke will both play.

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        Originally posted by jono2707
        Whilst I think Tommy is the sort of player who will continue to develop well and learn the game if he stays in the team, surely we couldn't give him the 2nd ruck job? Putting the additional burden of being second ruck has not exactly helped Jesse White, and it's not working too well with LRT either. Is the answer 2 rucks? Well not likely, from past experience, but I really hope Tommy doesn't get lumped with the role.....
        Nothing has helped Jesse.
        At least LRT know how to play back, and can play fwd in patches.

        But as Tommy had little opportunity on Sat given the lack of ball in the F50, I'd hope he gets another go, if not, bring in Mitch.

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        • Lucky Knickers
          Fandom of Fabulousness
          • Oct 2003
          • 4220

          Originally posted by aardvark
          I reckon Tommy would have been really disappointed with last weeks effort against his old team. I'd expect him to have a blinder if he gets a game again this week. As you say playing second ruck wouldn't help him at all. Hopefully Mummy and Pyke will both play.
          I agree he would be disappointed but don't agree that he is going to bounce back with a great game. I think Tommy is way out of his class at the moment and it would be better for him to go through his tapes with the coach then send him back to the reserves for a week. We are playing the suns so reasonable-ish opponent for him to practice on you would hope.

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          • Wazza
            Regular in the Side
            • May 2004
            • 805

            Originally posted by Dosser
            Dont be troubled, stella. I'm onto my 3rd glass of a very nice Coonawarra Cab Sav while I'm cooking, and I'm not troubled at all now. I think I found the answer...
            3/4 through wirra wirra RSW 2004 the only answer i can come up with is support GWS and enjoy the next 3 -4 years as it will only get better, much like the wine Im drinking

            Cheers

            waz

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            • Wazza
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2004
              • 805

              Ok finished wine Ive put a lot of thought into this - at least 3 mins -
              Spang for LJ.... LRT goes back to defence
              Morton for Walsh
              Reid plays FF and 2nd ruck
              Jude starting sub

              Ive parked the Jesse train not that Ive given up on him but obviously the coaches have.

              Cheers waz

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              • Triple B
                Formerly 'BBB'
                • Feb 2003
                • 6999

                Originally posted by Wazza
                Ok finished wine Ive put a lot of thought into this - at least 3 mins -
                Spang for LJ....
                LJ?

                Either more thought needed ... or more wine
                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                • Mr Magoo
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2008
                  • 1255

                  Originally posted by Triple B
                  So who's second ruck? Tommy?
                  True , leaves little other than Spangher and Walsh pinch hitting which is not the greatest of options.

                  Might mean that they bring White in for Walsh just to get some balance.

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                  • Doctor
                    Bay 29
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2757

                    Hopefully Mummy will be right. If he does come in though, Pyke should stay. He's clearly under orders not to kick, but he CAN kick. When he does at the moment, he knows he's not supposed to be doing it and gets nervous about it. They should tell him to go ahead and kick it if it's on so he can relax and just play what he sees. He could be a very handy back-up ruck/forward which would also allow Mummy to spend some time forward too as they ease him back in.
                    Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                    • Wazza
                      Regular in the Side
                      • May 2004
                      • 805

                      Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                      True , leaves little other than Spangher and Walsh pinch hitting which is not the greatest of options.

                      Might mean that they bring White in for Walsh just to get some balance.
                      Why not try reid as 2nd ruck get him into the game?

                      Cheers

                      Waz

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                      • Wazza
                        Regular in the Side
                        • May 2004
                        • 805

                        Originally posted by Triple B
                        LJ?

                        Either more thought needed ... or more wine
                        Oh spang not direct swap position wise for Lewis j - spang to fwds LRT back to defence sorry had a few wines

                        Cheers

                        waz

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                        • sprite
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 813

                          Ok controversy time:
                          Maybe Walsh played to his true ability -perhaps that's why he never got a game at St Kilda. He had the perfect opportunity and motivation last week.

                          Pyke stays as Fwd/2nd ruck.

                          LRT - out (Ted and Reg seem to have key positions covered) no room for him

                          Trying to fit Spangher in - maybe FP

                          Need one more change to the backline - either Shaw or Melcho - open to suggestion for replacements here

                          If Mumford not ready then Seaby in - need to have an experienced first ruck, just to get hand on ball first..

                          Question - Why try and crucify Reid by playing him as 2nd ruck, if anything get him up the ground to a wing.

                          Forward line instruction: Pyke doesn't need to move from goal square making someone accountable for him, everyone else goes man on man.

                          Put a tag (Macca or JB) on Lake to stop him running off his player.
                          sprite

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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            What about Melcho into a fwd pocket?
                            He's not a bad mark on the lead, and has a great kick.
                            And as a defender he's not that great, he's more of a rebound player, and got dragged into the hot zone too much against the Saints.

                            Thoughts?

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                            • CJK
                              Human
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2170

                              Originally posted by Wazza
                              sorry had a few wines
                              Today, 11:57 AM
                              ..... tough being a swans fan

                              OT - Don't think Ted is the man for the job -

                              EDIT - whoops, wrong topic.

                              Anyway - 3.15pm Sunday. Forget that. You want to me to get home at 8ish on a work night?

                              ALF bent over for TV so I'll capitulate and watch on TV. Be interested to see who else agrees with me, I feel a small crowd coming on.
                              -

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                              • jono2707
                                Goes up to 11
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3326

                                Our crowds have been pretty poor so far so I don't expect much to change on Sunday - low 20k's I reckon, and below that if its wet.

                                Of course the closure of part of the ground doesn't help, but I noticed last home game that General Admission was sold out yet we had less than 21k in attendance. I think that needs to be addressed if we and the AFL want to keep encouraging people to come to our games. We have TV and another team to contend with after all....

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