Drafting Table

[wolftone57]

This year we have to draft a tall KPP forward who can have stints in the midfield. Colyn Sylvia would polish our forward line off perfectly, however most on here still think he has an attitude problem. With gazza coming back, we can have him and reid up forward but we still need to draft a key position forward and key back. Thoughs?

Sylvia is a lazy player and he does have attitude problems. He is also too old. We need to build for the next ten years not do a quick fix. Gold Coast and GWS will probably be looking for a couple of experienced players next year so we have a couple we can trade for a tall forward or defender. A tall defender is imperative as we will need two to take over when Teddy and Reg get on a bit. But it would be good to have one hanging around in situations like the one we have now with Reg suspended as LRT isn't getting any younger. I think he will be a better match on Tippett than Reg anyway. Seaby is looking for a new home and GWS are looking for an experienced ruckman. Nathan Gordon, TDL and Brett Meredith might look elsewhere if they think they can get a game. I think Nipper must be pretty frustrated at this stage to be so close to selection so many times and not get a game. I would hate to lose him but there might not be a choice.

I reckon Charlie Dixon would be pretty good for us as he is marginal at the moment for the Suns but he has talent and grunt. I would look to draft two young Key Defenders next year.

[wolftone57]

Yes, you're right. Maybe I was thinking about Tim Schmidt. But I did read something that Port were interested in him.

Anyway, still interested in what the compensation rules are.

Free Agency; A player who has played 10 years for one club shall be given Free Agency and may move to any club he wishes with no compensation to the club from which he came.

Limited Free Agency; A player who has played 8 years for the one club shall be considered a Limited Free Agent. This player can choose to take an offer from an opposition club and leave with no compensation to his club. But if the offer is matched by his current club he must either stay or go through the normal trade procedure or the draft.

Seaby is not a Free Agent as he has not played 10 years for us, he is not even a Limited Free Agent. But we can choose to trade Seabs for a GWS player. We might like to throw in one or two others to get what we want either from GWS or Suns. We might like to get a young Tall Forward and a young Tall Defender.

I hope that clears any confusion over Free Agency!

[wolftone57]

Key forward (duh), athletic/modern ruckman (Pyke 28, Seaby past it), key back (for post-Ted days), classy/speedy outside mid.
Past few drafts we've gone for utilities (Lockyer, Brown, AJ) and a mid-sized fwd (Lamb). Would imagine we'd target these areas, or grab a best available if there's a slider.

We also took Mitchell in the draft and Biggs and Cunningham in the Rookie Draft. All of these are mids. Lamb is also playing as a mid and is very good too a bit like Joey!

You are right we do need KPP's & ruckman. GWS & Suns have extra in all departments and will be looking to offload some young talls I should think for a few experienced players.

[liz]

Seaby is not a Free Agent as he has not played 10 years for us, he is not even a Limited Free Agent. But we can choose to trade Seabs for a GWS player. We might like to throw in one or two others to get what we want either from GWS or Suns. We might like to get a young Tall Forward and a young Tall Defender.

I hope that clears any confusion over Free Agency!

You're overlooking the fact that GWS can still take a number of out-of-contract players as part of their start-up concessions. That said, I'd be surprised i Seaby was of that much interest to the Giants. He'd be a long way behind Giles in terms of being a first choice ruckman, and doesn't offer the versatility around the ground that clubs are now looking for in their second rucks. Plus he's close to the end of his career and has spent large chunks of this season injured.

[Ludwig]

You're overlooking the fact that GWS can still take a number of out-of-contract players as part of their start-up concessions. That said, I'd be surprised i Seaby was of that much interest to the Giants. He'd be a long way behind Giles in terms of being a first choice ruckman, and doesn't offer the versatility around the ground that clubs are now looking for in their second rucks. Plus he's close to the end of his career and has spent large chunks of this season injured.

But if they were crazy enough to take Seaby anyway, would it be similar to the Scully deal, where they AFL compensated Melbourne with some draft picks? Would it be that GWS could get him for just what they paid him and nothing else, the league doing the compensating to Sydney for their 'loss'. I was wondering about this, because it would mean, if true, that we could get at least something for him instead of nothing by delisting him.

It seems to me that losing and unwanted player to free agency or GWS concession is a good alternative to delisting, if you can do it.

The way these free agency deals seem to work is that the parties involved in the switch each get something, by the other teams pay the price by being knocked down the order at the draft. It seems a bit unfair.

For instance, if Goddard goes to Freo, the other teams would get knocked down the drafting order to compensate St. Kilda for their loss. Why should the rest of the teams not a party to deal have to pay the price?

Am I missing something here?

[wolftone57]

You're overlooking the fact that GWS can still take a number of out-of-contract players as part of their start-up concessions. That said, I'd be surprised i Seaby was of that much interest to the Giants. He'd be a long way behind Giles in terms of being a first choice ruckman, and doesn't offer the versatility around the ground that clubs are now looking for in their second rucks. Plus he's close to the end of his career and has spent large chunks of this season injured.

Thanks Liz. I think they are interested because their young rucks are not quite ready to go yet. In the clashes of the resies it was obvious their talls were still a little on the skinny side. A young ruck if he is not naturally built, like Mummy, needs about three pre-seasons to mature/fill out. I would think we have a few they would be interested in. Jesse would also be of interest to them I would think. If we need a certain type of player we might be able to pick up a couple of Key Defenders in the Draft but we need to pick up another Key Forward if Spang & Walshy don't come good. We can't rely on Goodes as he is not a Key Forward, he has proven this over the years. Sure, he will kick goals but not as the second tall mainly as third or pinch hitting For/Mid.

[sprite]

We need a quality tall defender,

[jono2707]

We need a quality tall defender,

But we have Ted Richards (193cm) and Heath Grundy (192cm) (well we usually have him...) - they are both All Aust calibre. Hopefully LRT will slot back in soon too. Whilst I wouldn't be averse to us getting another, our most pressing need is up forward IMHO....

[dimelb]

Report in the Hun today that Melbourne would delist Lucas Cook: b. 3.3.1992, h. 196, w. 81. Obviously doesn't excite them, but would he be worth a look? Has anyone seen him play, and does he have development possibilities?

[Bloody Hell]

Report in the Hun today that Melbourne would delist Lucas Cook: b. 3.3.1992, h. 196, w. 81. Obviously doesn't excite them, but would he be worth a look? Has anyone seen him play, and does he have development possibilities?

Never heard of him, but considering the information you have provided, no.

20 and 81kgs? Beanpole. If you're on the Melbourne list and you can't get a game you won't make it at AFL level.

[Nico]

Never heard of him, but considering the information you have provided, no.

20 and 81kgs? Beanpole. If you're on the Melbourne list and you can't get a game you won't make it at AFL level.

Reported that he has not been able to add any bulk to his frame. Sounds like a forward that should be playing down back.

[swansrob]

I's like to see Spang bought in as a permanent FF next year. He showed last year that he's more than capable of competing at AFL level as a forward. Name him at FF, persevere (no knee-jerk relegation after a bad game), and I reckon we'd be on to a winning combo with him, Reid, a resting ruckman and maybe a Morton or Lamb picking up the crumbs? Goodes to be given free reign to whatever the hell he wants.

[Melbourne_Blood]

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Spangher is injury prone. If he wasn't it would be a different story, but he is and you can't pin your hopes of a key position forward on a bloke who can't stay on the park for a season of footy.

[Jewels]

Spangher is injury prone. If he wasn't it would be a different story, but he is and you can't pin your hopes of a key position forward on a bloke who can't stay on the park for a season of footy.

Yep. I love Spang but his body just isn't up to it week in and week out.

[Big Al]

Yep. I love Spang but his body just isn't up to it week in and week out.

I have the same problem. *Old girlfriends are nodding their heads in agreement*