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  • goswannies
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3049

    Originally posted by aardvark
    He only does it to keep this thread going......

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    Did anyone else read this and understand it? If you're not sure Tippo has a sore leg.
    Sigh Tippett has a sore leg sums it up. I was mostly responding to the journal article.

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    • top40
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2007
      • 933

      Originally posted by goswannies
      Ok. It's impossible to really comment, as every article I've found is very vague about the nature of the injury and surgery.
      Generalising, however, surgery can stabilise structures more effectively initially than conservative treatment. However, it still takes time for the fixated/repaired soft tissue to heal (hence the expected extra couple of weeks predicted). Physiologically, tissue heals at its own rate and generally can't be expedited. 6-8 weeks is a common time period that will be cited. There is also a psychological element. Some players are pretty right to go as soon as they are given the ok. Nick Malceski & Goodsey are good examples. Others take time to regain confidence. Others still, just heal slowly and need a little extra time to prevent re-injury/further injury (Heath James, Sam Reid come to mind).
      If you can find an article that details what actually happened and how they are fixing it, I'd have a better idea, I suspect.
      The one big advantage that Tippett has is that he can focus 100% on rehab. Nor is his rehab restricted at all by financial/health fund constraints or rehab team limitations. This is a big plus compared with the general public. The other big advantage of surgical management is the anticipated long-term more favourable prognosis (either as a player and/or post-retirement).
      Excellent post.

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      • dejavoodoo44
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2015
        • 8578

        Originally posted by goswannies
        Sigh Tippett has a sore leg sums it up. I was mostly responding to the journal article.
        Actually, I understood all of your post. And I would argue that when discussing a complicated issue, using technical language is both appropriate and preferable. Otherwise, attempting to simplify the language makes it inaccurate. And I think that in regards to medical procedures, accuracy is a good thing.

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        • goswannies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 3049

          Originally posted by top40
          Excellent post.
          Thanks

          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
          Actually, I understood all of your post. And I would argue that when discussing a complicated issue, using technical language is both appropriate and preferable. Otherwise, attempting to simplify the language makes it inaccurate. And I think that in regards to medical procedures, accuracy is a good thing.
          Thanks. I usually try to minimise technical terminology (or at least try to make complicated concepts understandable, as it can be somewhat confusing, but when responding to a scientific abstract, I felt scientific vernacular was justified.

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          • aardvark
            Veterans List
            • Mar 2010
            • 5685

            Originally posted by goswannies
            Thanks. I usually try to minimise technical terminology (or at least try to make complicated concepts understandable, as it can be somewhat confusing, but when responding to a scientific abstract, I felt scientific vernacular was justified.
            Just one of the joys of sharing a forum with the "Great Unwashed".

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            • chalbilto
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2007
              • 1139

              Originally posted by goswannies
              Thanks



              Thanks. I usually try to minimise technical terminology (or at least try to make complicated concepts understandable, as it can be somewhat confusing, but when responding to a scientific abstract, I felt scientific vernacular was justified.
              Thanks for your responses, I for one really appreciate your insight and you also offer another avenue regarding injuries. Please keep up the great work.

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              • goswannies
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2007
                • 3049

                Originally posted by chalbilto
                Thanks for your responses, I for one really appreciate your insight and you also offer another avenue regarding injuries. Please keep up the great work.
                No probs, though I'd really prefer that we had no issues at the club for me to offer "insight" into

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                • CureTheSane
                  Carpe Noctem
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 5032

                  Tippo on long term injury list.
                  Round 22 return sounds a bit like 'season' to me...

                  Long-term list for Tippett - sydneyswans.com.au
                  The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                  • goswannies
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3049

                    Originally posted by CureTheSane
                    Tippo on long term injury list.
                    Round 22 return sounds a bit like 'season' to
                    The expectation, as a result of the op, was 6-8 weeks recovery (or round 22). He qualifies for the LTI list, which means we can upgrade a rookie (if/when needed). If recovery goes as planned, he should be OK to go come round 22 (not considering match fitness, of course). But the medical staff can work on general base fitness in other ways. He might not have the the match fitness to run all day in the ruck by then, but might be ok as a key forward, pinch hitting in the ruck.

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                    • kilroy
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 133

                      We wont see him again this year. He tore his hamstring from the bone, thats severe isnt it.

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                      • goswannies
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3049

                        Originally posted by kilroy
                        We wont see him again this year. He tore his hamstring from the bone, thats severe isnt it.
                        Where was it reported that that tendon was torn from the bone? A Grade II hamstring strain is a 4-8 week recovery. Grade III can be 6 weeks to a few months & might require surgery.

                        We know that the Swans initially considered conservative management but then found that surgical intervention might give a better outcome. We don't know if it's a severe injury or an augmentation to assist healing. It's still not unreasonable to think that he might be back this season if the injury wasn't a severe Grade III; the surgery wasn't to extensive (& goes well); rehab goes well. I don't think it's definitely season over unless we know that things were more dire than reported. I personally think we have to take Kurt's situation at face value as reported by the Club - as supporters, we have nothing else to go on.

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8578

                          Originally posted by goswannies
                          The expectation, as a result of the op, was 6-8 weeks recovery (or round 22). He qualifies for the LTI list, which means we can upgrade a rookie (if/when needed). If recovery goes as planned, he should be OK to go come round 22 (not considering match fitness, of course). But the medical staff can work on general base fitness in other ways. He might not have the the match fitness to run all day in the ruck by then, but might be ok as a key forward, pinch hitting in the ruck.
                          Yes, hopefully the recovery will run smoothly. I'm optimistic.
                          I've just been trying to think of the name of the name of the Brisbane premiership ruckman, who had the nickname, Mr September, because he was often only up and running during finals time?

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                          Got it just after I pressed post: Clark Keating. Or was it Aaron Keating? Groan.

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                          • YvonneH
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1141

                            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                            Yes, hopefully the recovery will run smoothly. I'm optimistic.
                            I've just been trying to think of the name of the name of the Brisbane premiership ruckman, who had the nickname, Mr September, because he was often only up and running during finals time?

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                            Got it just after I pressed post: Clark Keating. Or was it Aaron Keating? Groan.
                            You were right 1st time. Clark Keating it was.

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                            • AnnieH
                              RWOs Black Sheep
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 11332

                              The problem is that Tipoff is NOT a ruckman.
                              He's a full forward filling a position.
                              Goodesy's knees were killed by rucking too.
                              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                              • goswannies
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3049

                                According to Adam Curley on afl.com 23 June Tippett partially tore the hamstring tendon in his left leg against Greater Western Sydney in round 12 at Spotless Stadium, and had surgery in Melbourne last week.

                                A partial tear has a far more promising prognosis (with or without surgery) than a complete rupture

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