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  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    Originally posted by Doctor
    We won't be free of his salary until 2020. This move helps us save some cap space but probably explains why things are still tight.
    If he's on our rookie list, doesn't that mean we ARE free of his salary within the cap?

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      The Sydney Swans have today delisted Kurt Tippett.
      In keeping with AFL rules and regulations, it is the club’s intention to re-draft Tippett in the upcoming AFL Rookie Draft so that the club can fulfil the terms of an agreed settlement.
      Tippett, who retired from AFL football in January 2018 due to injury problems, is not fit for football and has no intention of returning to the AFL.
      With this statement we consider the matter closed. No parties will make any further comment.
      Except this party!!!

      Oh my. If you are well enough to play in god-knows-where, you are well enough to play here.
      Backup ruckman. We may only need him once... providing he can go the whole game without getting injured.

      He's a lovely bloke, but... Seriously. Ripped. Off.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8559

        Originally posted by jono2707
        Surely this will now put to bed anyone defending the idea that his contract was ever a good deal for us.
        An absolute shocker....
        Originally posted by troyjones2525
        In hindsight, agreed.
        Always in hindsight.....but it did look great at the time and as I've repeatedly said, the club doesn't have a crystal ball.....so get over it!

        It is the epitome of 'pointless' to complain about a deal years later after it doesn't work out.......pointless and annoying.....and that goes for the Mitchell complainers as well!

        And it will also apply to anyone who complains about the Hannerbury deal in the future, if he happens to be a gun again......

        What's done is DONE.....move on.

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8559

          Originally posted by CureTheSane
          All I see here is a chance that Tippett may make a comeback
          Originally posted by AnnieH
          Except this party!!!

          Oh my. If you are well enough to play in god-knows-where, you are well enough to play here.
          Backup ruckman. We may only need him once... providing he can go the whole game without getting injured.

          He's a lovely bloke, but... Seriously. Ripped. Off.
          "Tippett, who retired from AFL football in January 2018 due to injury problems, is not fit for football and has no intention of returning to the AFL."

          Seems plain enough to me.....

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          • chalbilto
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2007
            • 1139

            Originally posted by stevoswan
            Always in hindsight.....but it did look great at the time and as I've repeatedly said, the club doesn't have a crystal ball.....so get over it!

            It is the epitome of 'pointless' to complain about a deal years later after it doesn't work out.......pointless and annoying.....and that goes for the Mitchell complainers as well!

            And it will also apply to anyone who complains about the Hannerbury deal in the future, if he happens to be a gun again......

            What's done is DONE.....move on.
            +1. Agreed supporters should "get over it". It's done and nothing can be changed.

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            • jono2707
              Goes up to 11
              • Oct 2007
              • 3326

              I won't "get over it" until he's off the list.

              And would we want the best thread ever to fade away and die just yet anyway???

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              • CureTheSane
                Carpe Noctem
                • Jan 2003
                • 5032

                Originally posted by stevoswan
                "Tippett, who retired from AFL football in January 2018 due to injury problems, is not fit for football and has no intention of returning to the AFL."

                Seems plain enough to me.....
                For now.
                I predict a killer pre season for him
                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16773

                  Originally posted by 09183305
                  If his body is good enuff to play for Strath, and he’s on our rookie list anyway, why isn’t he playing in our reserves in the NEAFL. Could be the difference come NEAFL finals time
                  I imagine the training regime and playing intensity of our NEAFL team is many degrees higher than in an amateur suburban or country league.

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8559

                    Originally posted by jono2707
                    I won't "get over it" until he's off the list.

                    And would we want the best thread ever to fade away and die just yet anyway???
                    Absolutely not!

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                    • The Big Cat
                      On the veteran's list
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2356

                      I am confused. Tippett was not recruited as a free agent (and even if he was he was initially on a three or four year deal). He retires at the start of a new three year deal. Is the reason he is still on our books that he was a contracted player who was injured as part of his employment and theoretically did not retire through a wish for non-footy but a realization that he can't play. ie Is he being treated (by AFL rules) as though he is on a long term injury list and the only other way out for the club was for him to renegotiate a pay out (which would have decreased his salary over these years considerably, and which he was under no obligation to accept)

                      Presumably, Cyril must have been out of contract or, because he wanted out, the club and he just voided the rest of his contract.
                      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                      • waswan
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 2047

                        Said it before and ill say it again
                        Happy with the initial 4 yr deal to take a chance on Tippo but whatever possessed us to have a "trigger" in his contract to extend 4 more years is beyond me.
                        The trigger must have been for putting his jumper on the right way each game and how the trigger was agreed on big dollars is disgraceful.
                        Definitely need to sack someone over that
                        On the hook for 8yrs of Tippett, Buddy must be thinking about his next deal

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6480

                          I’m fine with it given it’s a very small amount of players and clubs that this rule helps
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • lwjoyner
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 952

                            where can I get a contract like this. no work but pay what a beauty. agree someone needs to answer for it.

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16773

                              Originally posted by waswan
                              Said it before and ill say it again
                              Happy with the initial 4 yr deal to take a chance on Tippo but whatever possessed us to have a "trigger" in his contract to extend 4 more years is beyond me.
                              The trigger must have been for putting his jumper on the right way each game and how the trigger was agreed on big dollars is disgraceful.
                              Definitely need to sack someone over that
                              On the hook for 8yrs of Tippett, Buddy must be thinking about his next deal
                              He didn't have a trigger for an additional four years. He had a trigger for an additional year. He then renegotiated that, accepting a lower per annum amount over a longer period. And then he got injured and realised he couldn't get back to his best (and/or didn't have the appetite to).

                              The football he played in the first half of 2016 was very very good. He was close to our best player over that period (and bear in mind that the Swans had five players in the AA team that year, so he was hardly a standout in a mediocre side). And then he hurt his ankle and it was clearly a pretty serious injury.

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16773

                                Originally posted by lwjoyner
                                where can I get a contract like this. no work but pay what a beauty. agree someone needs to answer for it.
                                It's pretty common in the corporate world for senior executives to have fixed term contracts that guarantee them exorbitant payouts if they are sacked, even when they are sacked for non-performance. I'm not defending that as good behaviour, but it's not uncommon.

                                In the case of sportsmen, they have short careers that are subject to being cut even shorter in the event of serious injury (which is a little different to non-performance by a senior business executive as there's usually no element of blame). The best players are highly sought over and if one club doesn't offer them a contract that offers more security than where their next pay packet is coming from, another will.

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