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  • WolfGang
    Pushing for Selection
    • Nov 2005
    • 68

    #76
    Any chance of Xav Richards playing this Friday - as another tall defender - to free up McVeigh, Everitt and Rampe to have a more run with / rebounding defender role ??
    See how it works with a Buddy free Hawthorn ??
    So Out: B Jack, Cunningham, Morton and Biggs
    In: Tippett, Hannabery, Smith and Xav Richards ??

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    • Ruck'n'Roll
      Ego alta, ergo ictus
      • Nov 2003
      • 3990

      #77
      Originally posted by WolfGang
      Any chance of Xav Richards playing this Friday - as another tall defender - to free up McVeigh, Everitt and Rampe to have a more run with / rebounding defender role ??
      Earlier thus season 'Dre started to play as a true 3rd tall defender, and he began to garner considerable cudos on RWO, more recently he has been playing a more loose/attacking role. Against the Hawks this tendency reached it's acme, 'Dre was setting up on the wing against a team that loads it's forward line with talls.
      I feel this to have been to the detriment of the team, we need a serious and accountable 3rd tall defender more than we need a 6ft4inch outside midfielder with with what appears to be serious pressure sensitivity. I can't see Xav or Lockyer being promoted.

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      • Bloodthirsty
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2013
        • 607

        #78
        Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
        Earlier thus season 'Dre started to play as a true 3rd tall defender, and he began to garner considerable cudos on RWO, more recently he has been playing a more loose/attacking role. Against the Hawks this tendency reached it's acme, 'Dre was setting up on the wing against a team that loads it's forward line with talls.
        I feel this to have been to the detriment of the team, we need a serious and accountable 3rd tall defender more than we need a 6ft4inch outside midfielder with with what appears to be serious pressure sensitivity. I can't see Xav or Lockyer being promoted.
        Yeah I don't know why they don't just play Everitt as the third tall defender all the time. We'd be pretty solid if they continued to do that. Would like to know why they would move him away from that. He's no Malceski.
        "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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        • ugg
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          • Jan 2003
          • 15970

          #79
          Because while he has the height he doesn't have the physicality or the strength to play on tall forwards. That's why the coaches feel more comfortable with Rampe in that role even though he's a good couple of inches shorter than Dre
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          • Beerman
            Regular in the Side
            • Oct 2010
            • 823

            #80
            Originally posted by Ludwig
            4. White is good, but is not a pack-mark forward. He did well, but is better suited when the main marking assignment goes to Tippett.
            I agree with this. One thing White is doing that he didn't do much of before is crashing a pack and bringing the ball to ground. (What LRT used to do in the forward line with us). Doesn't mark it as much as Tippett or Pyke in those situations, but at least he's making a contest.

            White plays more like Buddy than Cloke, and just as Buddy has Roughead to take the contested marks in the square, so White needs Tippett or Pyke for those sitaations.

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            • Primmy
              Proud Tragic Swan
              • Apr 2008
              • 5970

              #81
              Jesse has found his Mongrel, witness his desperate effort on the ground for the first goal. We just had to hang in there with him.

              Drey is learning his game, and the coaches are too. All will be well. He wants this big time. He will find his niche.

              Rampe is just an unusual find. You don't go out and shop for rookie list players like him. The Swans got lucky over and above the fact he is got lucky playing seniors right off the bat.

              Its a game people in the truest sense.
              If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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              • Wazza
                Regular in the Side
                • May 2004
                • 805

                #82
                Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                Yeah I don't know why they don't just play Everitt as the third tall defender all the time. We'd be pretty solid if they continued to do that. Would like to know why they would move him away from that. He's no Malceski.
                Probably because he is a terrible defender, Dre looks ok against the melbs and GWS but when the pressure goes up dre goes missing.

                Cheers

                waz

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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  #83
                  Originally posted by ugg
                  Because while he has the height he doesn't have the physicality or the strength to play on tall forwards. That's why the coaches feel more comfortable with Rampe in that role even though he's a good couple of inches shorter than Dre
                  I think your 1/2 right, he certainly doesn't have the strength for Hale or Roughy, but then Rampe doesn't have the height. Physicality is in the mind, and his recent lack of it (especially after some good efforts against the Toasters Darling and others) is dare I say it . . . UnSwanlike! As Primmy might observe he too needs to find his "mongrel"

                  Originally posted by Wazza
                  Probably because he is a terrible defender, Dre looks ok against the melbs and GWS but when the pressure goes up dre goes missing.
                  Cheers
                  waz
                  I disagree, not about him going missing, he certainly does that, as I said it's just he seems to go missing more when he's playing a receiver/offensive role more than being given a serious 3rd tall roll. I would have liked to have seen Horse send him to Gunstan last Friday night, perhaps this Friday?

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9721

                    #84
                    I haven't really spotted much chitter chatter in this thread, but I just thought I'd ask- how bloody good was Mummy?!?!?!?!?!?!?
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • DK_
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 454

                      #85
                      Originally posted by stellation
                      I haven't really spotted much chitter chatter in this thread, but I just thought I'd ask- how bloody good was Mummy?!?!?!?!?!?!?
                      He was awesome... And seems to be getting more awesome every game! As do Pyke, White & Tippett. There seems to be some serious, healthy competition between our big men ATM!

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