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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16778

    #46
    Originally posted by aardvark
    Yet nearly everyone here would play Jesse ahead of him. Interesting.
    Would they? If Reid were available on the injury comeback, I wouldn't be playing him now ahead Jesse. But from next year, if both were fit, I would pick Reid ahead of White with no hesitation.

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    • royboy42
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2006
      • 2078

      #47
      Originally posted by liz
      Would they? If Reid were available on the injury comeback, I wouldn't be playing him now ahead Jesse. But from next year, if both were fit, I would pick Reid ahead of White with no hesitation.
      A fit Reid would always be higher in our 22 than a fit White...always.

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        #48
        Originally posted by royboy42
        A fit Reid would always be higher in our 22 than a fit White...always.
        It's strange, since White's production has been better than Reid's this year. It's difficult to compare them because they've only played one game together, the 1st Hawthorne loss, where White played better, but it was a game we all want to forget.

        I think it's psychological in that we judge White harshly because of all the disappointment we've had over the years. Based on latest form I'd say it was a tossup.

        Personally, I would like to see both in the team. I think White is better offensively and Reid defensively.

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5857

          #49
          Originally posted by Dosser
          Does anyone know what is happening with Josh Dunkley?
          dunkers does not like the Swans over being retired. So young Dunkley might not want to come to the Swans or his father might not want him to.

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          • BillyRayCypress
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2012
            • 1379

            #50
            Originally posted by Ludwig
            Personally, I would like to see both in the team. I think White is better offensively and Reid defensively.
            I agree. It's been great to see Jesse improve so much this year and the extra application/dedication he has put in during training has certainly paid off. Reid would replace LRT at CHB. The advantage he can be thrown up forward when required. Like the Weagles did with our fav man Hunter.
            Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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            • sprite
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2003
              • 813

              #51
              Ok, I'll stir the pot..

              We need a crumbing half-forward.

              Collingwood have just delisted one - a couple of seasons from Didak - he is after all a 30 to 40 goal a season player.

              May just need a change of scenery/coach and discipline.
              sprite

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #52
                Originally posted by BillyRayCypress
                I agree. It's been great to see Jesse improve so much this year and the extra application/dedication he has put in during training has certainly paid off. Reid would replace LRT at CHB. The advantage he can be thrown up forward when required. Like the Weagles did with our fav man Hunter.
                One of the things we've been missing is having a tall defender that can either run and carry or present for a marking outlet from defence (a big weakness in Grundy's game IMO). Reid can do both.

                The more I think about it, the more it seems that the decision of what to do with White will decide how we approach the off season trading and recruitment, because if he stays it pushes Reid to the backline and forces us to consider if we are too top heavy with the 4 talls.

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                • MadCanuck
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 138

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  One of the things we've been missing is having a tall defender that can either run and carry or present for a marking outlet from defence (a big weakness in Grundy's game IMO). Reid can do both.
                  I thought that was what Incy was supposed to be doing.

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                  • jono2707
                    Goes up to 11
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3326

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    One of the things we've been missing is having a tall defender that can either run and carry or present for a marking outlet from defence (a big weakness in Grundy's game IMO). Reid can do both.

                    The more I think about it, the more it seems that the decision of what to do with White will decide how we approach the off season trading and recruitment, because if he stays it pushes Reid to the backline and forces us to consider if we are too top heavy with the 4 talls.
                    AJ should be back next year too.....

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #55
                      Originally posted by sprite
                      Ok, I'll stir the pot..

                      We need a crumbing half-forward.

                      Collingwood have just delisted one - a couple of seasons from Didak - he is after all a 30 to 40 goal a season player.

                      May just need a change of scenery/coach and discipline.
                      I think the crumbing half-forward is a thing of the past. This role is played by someone who can play through the midfield, apply defensive pressure and can kick a goal. From last night's game, PA have Monfries, Geelong have Chapman and Christensen. We have McGlynn, who would be fine if he can clean up his disposal errors.

                      Hawthorn are the strongest in this area with Rioli, Breust and Puopolo. All three are good defensively, kick goals and play through the midfield.

                      Didak can kick a goal, but doesn't do the other 2. The likes of BJ, Harry C and Jed Lamb are likely to fill this this role the coming years.

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                      Originally posted by jono2707
                      AJ should be back next year too.....
                      Yes, he can do both as well. Will be great.

                      Originally posted by MadCanuck
                      I thought that was what Incy was supposed to be doing.
                      He's the best at the run and carry part, but hasn't quite shown enough as a key defender. I think he can be a valuable tall utility and will may succeed LRT in that role, although he is unlikely to ever be LRT's equal defensively.

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                      • Matt80
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1802

                        #56
                        White continues to impress and we need him to get him to stay!

                        Reid , Tippett and White could all play in the same forward line due to White ability to play high half forward!

                        If you are looking for a Collingwood recruit I would be looking at Harry Obrien more than Jolly, Didak and Heath Shaw.

                        Based on media reports I don't think Obrien is getting along brilliantly with Buckly and would inject some great run and pace out of our back line! Imagine the quick link up play he could provide with Jetta, Rohan, Goodes and Jesse White. It would be electric! Our first round or Mumford should do that deal!

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                        • BillyRayCypress
                          On the Rookie List
                          • May 2012
                          • 1379

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Matt80
                          Our first round or Mumford should do that deal!
                          I believe we would be significantly overpaying for O'Brien considering GWS are prepared to trade the No 1 pick.
                          Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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                          • Matt80
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 1802

                            #58
                            I would love the Swans to get the number one pick from GWS, but it would take more than Shane Mumford. The Swans would also need to give GWS another hard bodied midfield player (like a Luke Parker) and possibly also there late 1st round pick to get the GWS number one pick.

                            Tom Boyd would be gun player to get on Swans list though!

                            In reality, GWS don't need to trade for Mumford as they can pick him up with pick one of the Pre-Season draft, assuming that plan is not in place for Franklin!

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                            • grarmy
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 406

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              ...I think it's psychological in that we judge White harshly because of all the disappointment we've had over the years....
                              Very well said. I have been one of White's greatest detractors. But the bloke has his mojo back. Whatever he is doing to improve his game and whatever the club is doing to bring out his best, it's working. There is still much to improve but its working. I would definitely keep him at the Swans.
                              "Play like you can’t lose."

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                              • Matt80
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 1802

                                #60
                                I've always been amazed at the criticism that White had received given his initial value! He was taken in the 70s in the final round of the 2006 draft.

                                White has delivered far more to the Swans than they would have expected for such a low pick. He is on the verge of becoming one of the elite key forwards of the competition.

                                How come you don't look at first round draft picks like Jed Lamb and Dene Towers and ask you selfs what these players are delivering compared to Jesse White.

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