2013 not yet re-signed....

[aardvark]

Does Shaun Hampson still go out with Megan Gail?

Ooh can you imagine the "WAG" standoff with Miss Columbia. Fingernails at twenty paces. I'd like to see that!

[jono2707]

I wouldn't trade for a ruckman as there are not too many good ones that are not required by their clubs. Warnock if he is not required will go to either GWS, Bullies or Port I would think but other than him there is not much in the pool. We have a very good rookie ruckman in Sam Naismith who after getting over injury proved how valuable he was to the reserves. Very talented young bloke and a future 1st ruck in the Polly Farmer style just about a foot taller.

I think we'll look at other fringe ruckmen around the place, and possible even a few VFL/WAFL/SANFL if there are any guys worth looking at there. To compare a rookie listed, injury affected youngster in their first year on the list to one of the all-time greats of the game is pushing it a little bit. A bit more ruck cover will certainly be looked at.

[Panttz]

Mumford for #1 draft pick.
Trade that pick for a 24-26 yr old Key back + 8-15 draft pick.
Take a midfielder in the draft.

[Dosser]

Mumford for #1 draft pick.
Trade that pick for a 24-26 yr old Key back + 8-15 draft pick.
Take a midfielder in the draft.

Um... I want what you are on.

[Ludwig]

Mumford for #1 draft pick.
Trade that pick for a 24-26 yr old Key back + 8-15 draft pick.
Take a midfielder in the draft.

It will take a lot more than Mummy to get the #1 draft pick. The best we could hope for is the GWS mid round pick (probably #9), which is still pretty good.

[Panttz]

Green tea

Who else could we trade in addition to Mummy? Someone that GWS actually could use who wont be superseded in the next 2 years of development I mean

[Dosser]

Green tea

Who else could we trade in addition to Mummy? Someone that GWS actually could use who wont be superseded in the next 2 years of development I mean

ok, one from left field... Eski? He has currency, but only a few years left and we have AJ coming back as well as guys like Towers in the magoos.

[dimelb]

I can't see us trading Eski, and I don't think he has that much currency left as he turns 30 next year. On the other hand, and it hurts me to say this, there are probably several clubs who would be interested in Craig Bird, and he has a lot to offer.

[BillyRayCypress]

I have full faith that the Club can look at our list realistically and make the necessary decisions to improve for next year.

Scott said he would look at Geelong and make the necessary changes to improve. Buckley has done it as has Malthouse now.

We do have quite a few players that have value and when does the silly season begin this year. Will it be another long period?

[Captain]

Hopefully we get a decent pick for White and Mummy.

Was sad to see them go but not anymore.

Am confident Tippett, Reid and Pyke (and potentially Membrey/Walsh) will help fill the big man stocks whilst we develop or trade for another ruckman.

[Matt80]

What about Jed Lamb and Tony Armstrong for trade? They have not taken their chances this year and a change of scenery may help them!

[dimelb]

Tony might get more scope elsewhere, but I don't want to lose Jed. I think he is a master in the making.

[Ludwig]

Food For Thought: Very Aggressive Trade Strategy

I thought I would offer up a super aggressive trading strategy that could get us 4 picks in the top 15 of the draft. I have tried to be as realistic as possible about the needs of other clubs and what other teams would accept in a trade; I have tried to take the emotion out of it by even sending 2 of my favourites to the trading block.

The point of this particular strategy is to trade players that I thought we could reasonably cover, or were not contracted yet, and had a good trade value. In exchange I wanted to be able to select particular players in the draft that I thought could help secure the Swans' future for some time to come.

I am not saying that I support this strategy, but it rather came about by thinking of the various possibilities and scenarios involving the draft and trade period. Afterwards I made a table of a possible best 22 and didn't think it looked all that bad. Conservatively, I didn't include any of the new players in the team. I would be quite pleased going into the season with the one shown below. If the actual draft picks materialised in fact, I would feel very good about the Swans future and believe we would have all bases covered for quite a number of years into the future. In the end we would get 2 KPPs (Jaksch, Gardiner), 2 tall utilities (Scharenberg, Bontempelli), 2 midfielders (Freeman, Perris) and a ruckman.

Trades:

1. Bird, Lamb, Armstrong, Pick 49 to Melbourne for Picks 2 and 37
2. Jesse White and Pick 37 (from Melb) to Brisbane for Pick 7
3. Mumford and Grundy, Pick 31 to GWS for Picks 9 and 53, Kristian Jaksch (KPP)


Additions:

National Draft

# 2 Matt Scharenberg (SA ? Def/Util) Height: 190cm, Weight: 89kg, DOB: 18/09/1995
# 7 Marcus Bontempelli (VIC ? Mid/Def) Height: 191cm, Weight: 83kg, DOB: 24/11/1995
# 9 Nathan Freeman (VIC ? Mid) Height: 181cm, Weight: 85kg, DOB: 16/06/1995
#14 Darcy Gardiner (VIC ? KPD) Height: 192cm, Weight: 84kg, DOB: 22/09/1995
#53 Best available Ruckman (Loob, Nankervis, Apeness)

* A good place to get some writeups on this year's draft prospects is: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thread...-draft.983436/

Rookie Draft:

Lloyd Perris, added to list as scholarship player.
Mark Seaby or Darren Jolly or David Hille

Other Additions:
Kristian Jaksch (GSW draft pick #12 2012) Around 195 cm., can play forward or back.
Patrick Mitchell (203 cm American International rookie)

2014 Team


FB Alex Johnson, Ted Richards, Smith
HB Dane Rampe, LRT, Malceski
CTR Kieren Jack, McVeigh, Hannebery
INT Luke Parker Cunningham Dean Towers
Rk Kennedy, Pyke, Tom Mitchell
HF Jetta, Reid, ROK
FF Rohan, Tippett, Everitt
SUB Goodes
EMG Jake Lloyd, Brandon Jack, Tim Membrey
McGlynn, Shaw, Biggs

[Matt80]

Dimelb what do you see in Jed to say he is a master in the making?

This is his 3rd season on the list, same as Luke Parker, who was a lower draft pick than Jed in 2010.

Will Jed's 4th season on the list be as good as Luke Parker's 3rd on the list?

Lets also remember that in 2012, Lewis Jetta, another 1st round pick, had an incredible year in his 3rd year on the list!

It's time for Jed to start demonstrating why the people of red and white rate him so highly!

[Melbournehammer]

Hopefully we get a decent pick for White and Mummy.

Was sad to see them go but not anymore.

Am confident Tippett, Reid and Pyke (and potentially Membrey/Walsh) will help fill the big man stocks whilst we develop or trade for another ruckman.

without reading the rest of the thread - are they definitely gone or is this speculation

- - - Updated - - -

I thought I would offer up a super aggressive trading strategy that could get us 4 picks in the top 15 of the draft. I have tried to be as realistic as possible about the needs of other clubs and what other teams would accept in a trade; I have tried to take the emotion out of it by even sending 2 of my favourites to the trading block.

The point of this particular strategy is to trade players that I thought we could reasonably cover, or were not contracted yet, and had a good trade value. In exchange I wanted to be able to select particular players in the draft that I thought could help secure the Swans' future for some time to come.

I am not saying that I support this strategy, but it rather came about by thinking of the various possibilities and scenarios involving the draft and trade period. Afterwards I made a table of a possible best 22 and didn't think it looked all that bad. Conservatively, I didn't include any of the new players in the team. I would be quite pleased going into the season with the one shown below. If the actual draft picks materialised in fact, I would feel very good about the Swans future and believe we would have all bases covered for quite a number of years into the future. In the end we would get 2 KPPs (Jaksch, Gardiner), 2 tall utilities (Scharenberg, Bontempelli), 2 midfielders (Freeman, Perris) and a ruckman.

Trades:

1. Bird, Lamb, Armstrong, Pick 49 to Melbourne for Picks 2 and 37
2. Jesse White and Pick 37 (from Melb) to Brisbane for Pick 7
3. Mumford and Grundy, Pick 31 to GWS for Picks 9 and 53, Kristian Jaksch (KPP)


Additions:

National Draft

# 2 Matt Scharenberg (SA ? Def/Util) Height: 190cm, Weight: 89kg, DOB: 18/09/1995
# 7 Marcus Bontempelli (VIC ? Mid/Def) Height: 191cm, Weight: 83kg, DOB: 24/11/1995
# 9 Nathan Freeman (VIC ? Mid) Height: 181cm, Weight: 85kg, DOB: 16/06/1995
#14 Darcy Gardiner (VIC ? KPD) Height: 192cm, Weight: 84kg, DOB: 22/09/1995
#53 Best available Ruckman (Loob, Nankervis, Apeness)

* A good place to get some writeups on this year's draft prospects is: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thread...-draft.983436/

Rookie Draft:

Lloyd Perris, added to list as scholarship player.
Mark Seaby or Darren Jolly or David Hille

Other Additions:
Kristian Jaksch (GSW draft pick #12 2012) Around 195 cm., can play forward or back.
Patrick Mitchell (203 cm American International rookie)

2014 Team


FB Alex Johnson, Ted Richards, Smith
HB Dane Rampe, LRT, Malceski
CTR Kieren Jack, McVeigh, Hannebery
INT Luke Parker Cunningham Dean Towers
Rk Kennedy, Pyke, Tom Mitchell
HF Jetta, Reid, ROK
FF Rohan, Tippett, Everitt
SUB Goodes
EMG Jake Lloyd, Brandon Jack, Tim Membrey
McGlynn, Shaw, Biggs

I dont understand why melbourne would possibly give up pick 2 for three fringe swans players, and how jesse suddenly became worth pick 7.

i could vaguely see the gws thing happening.