Swans 2013 Draft Strategy

[stellation]

I'm not anti-hobbit, I just think we need to really nail our draft picks this year and for someone that height to make it they really need to have something special. If this young chap has something special then fantastic!

[Matimbo]

Ambidextrous maybe?......although I do like Bifooteral too......

Yes, ambidextrous is the correct term - it refers in general to the state of being equally adept in the use of left and right appendages, hence it can be used for hands or feet (or any other combo of left-right appendages, I guess). But bi-footeral is just so damn good! Let's add it to the RWO dictionary.

[Mug Punter]

Seem to remember the Swans saying they recruit in the based on needs of the squad as opposed to pure player ratings. In that case I would like us to get a get a future A grader at pick 15 (a midfielder) and take the best available ruck at 32 in case we lose him before 44.

A tall defender with potential would also be good

[bennyfabulous]

Taylor looks a bit like Chappy to me. Doubt he will make it to 15. Fingers crossed tho.

[Ludwig]

Can a person who is two-faced also be described as ambidextrous?

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If I were Lloyd Perris or Jake Lloyd, I'd be hoping we don't draft Taylor. I'd be sweating on draft night thinking "take a big guy"

[BillyRayCypress]

So if we include Lamb we have 8 spots on the senior list.

Upgrade Rampe and Jack and that leaves 6. So far so good. Wouldn't one or both these spots be used in the draft number?

DOH !!!! just remembered who we recruited. 5 picks left.

I can't see the Swans using 5 picks in the draft unless they go into the PSD.

Is that right or have I missed an upgrade somewhere???

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Reid was a pick 38, not a pick in the 50s. But still a good get at that point in the draft.

Wasn't the gamble to take Reid a year earlier. As a result he came to us later in the draft than if we waited the following year when he would have been much higher and we would have missed out,

[liz]

Wasn't the gamble to take Reid a year earlier. As a result he came to us later in the draft than if we waited the following year when he would have been much higher and we would have missed out,

How was waiting a year an option? He was of draft age and always going to get drafted by someone, given his family's AFL background and his athleticism.

[monopoly19]

So if we include Lamb we have 8 spots on the senior list.

Upgrade Rampe and Jack and that leaves 6. So far so good. Wouldn't one or both these spots be used in the draft number?

DOH !!!! just remembered who we recruited. 5 picks left.

I can't see the Swans using 5 picks in the draft unless they go into the PSD.

Is that right or have I missed an upgrade somewhere???

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Wasn't the gamble to take Reid a year earlier. As a result he came to us later in the draft than if we waited the following year when he would have been much higher and we would have missed out,

I believe you're thinking of Hanners.

[liz]

Don't believe Hanners would have gone undrafted either. Campbell Heath, quite possibly.

[BillyRayCypress]

Well the bus conductor memory served me right. Found this article said that he only made the draft by 4 days and that is why everyone was unsure of him.

Leave the beer money on the fridge on your way out !!

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/sam-reid-is-the-unlikely-swan/story-fndv7pj3-1226457760531

[monopoly19]

Don't believe Hanners would have gone undrafted either. Campbell Heath, quite possibly.

The point was that we got him much later in the draft as an underage player (which is a bit of a gamble).

Apologies BRC - I didn't recall that story about Reid. And now I'm confused - they're both born in 1991, Hanners in Feb and Reid in Dec. If Reid only just made the 2009 draft cut-off (which I'm presuming means drafting goes on calendar year), how did Hanners make the 2008 cut-off?

ETA: Nevermind, wiki tells me the rules changed in 2009. So Reid was really only young in the context of that year's rule change. Many kids had been drafted younger (including Hanners) up to that point.

[liz]

The point was that we got him much later in the draft as an underage player (which is a bit of a gamble).

Apologies BRC - I didn't recall that story about Reid. And now I'm confused - they're both born in 1991, Hanners in Feb and Reid in Dec. If Reid only just made the 2009 draft cut-off (which I'm presuming means drafting goes on calendar year), how did Hanners make the 2008 cut-off?

ETA: Nevermind, wiki tells me the rules changed in 2009. So Reid was really only young in the context of that year's rule change. Many kids had been drafted younger (including Hanners) up to that point.

But it's only really relevant if you think most clubs aren't looking at a player because they are bottom-age. Hanners wasn't exactly a late pick. Nor was Reid really. Both were well known to recruiters (and both have fathers who played AFL). There might have been higher perceived risk because they were younger and therefore less developed - which might partly explain why they went in the 30s and not earlier. But that doesn't equate to a club taking a punt by getting in a year early. If a club seriously thought a player would probably go undrafted that year, and have to wait until the next, surely they'd wait til their last - or almost last - pick in the draft before they chose him.

[Ludwig]

The talk is that Tony A will be delisted. I wonder if they are waiting until he returns from Ireland to discuss a possible contract extension. I'd like to see him stay another year and see if some of the improvement he showed in the reserves is real. Anyway, with the loss of Jesse and Dre, we are really short on whipping boys at the moment.

[BillyRayCypress]

The point was that we got him much later in the draft as an underage player (which is a bit of a gamble).

Thanks M19 (sounds like a British Agent) that was what I was trying to say. He may have gone to someone later in the draft but certainly would have been a high draft pick the following year.

He wasn't as much of a gamble as Grundy but Grundy was rookie listed first.

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If Armstrong gets delisted then that takes us back to 6 Swans senior vacancies.

[Ludwig]

Thanks M19 (sounds like a British Agent)

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If Armstrong gets delisted then that takes us back to 6 Swans senior vacancies.

Then we might decide on using pick 53 on the spot, depending on who's available. It might even be set it aside for Mark Seaby, who could be the best backup ruck option in the draft and allow us to see how the development of Naismith and Mitchell goes.

Considering that we haven't delisted any rookies, and I can't see why we would as they've all played well this year, one additional rookie pick would seem to suffice; we've already added 2 with Perris and Pat Mitchell.