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Your points are just ridiculously biased. Your last comment is being reported to the moderators. What I am saying is I do think our packs are a bit light on. They do have a huge following and to say any different is just fooling yourself. you obviously hate Hawthorn, I don't hate any other team particularly, only when they play us. To hate a football club because they are successful or for any other shallow reason shows immaturity and lack of perception. There are indeed 10 teams in Victoria that have to share the loyalty of 5-6 million people. The swans have one team, and of course NRL teams, but still we have between 7 & 8 million people to woo between two AFL teams. We do well but could do better and the club recognises this. The outgoing president talked about his vision of 50,000 members for the Swans which should be attainable in the Sydney market within 5 years. The Hawks played GCS, Melbourne & St Kilda all of whom have very little supporter base in Melbourne, the first being a new club and the other two because they are losing. You tried to fudge figures. I am willing to give every club their due even Collingwood, the enemy of every other footy supporter, when they do well.
As far as going to the Hawks club it was an enjoyable experience and I would hope the Swans get our own club in the future, the Kings Cross idea was not really a good one. It would be amazing to go to a Swans club with all the facilities the hawks, Cats, Pies, Bombers clubs have. We have had a lot of years to develop the Sydney market and due to a series of misfortunes this has not been done as well as the current and near current administration would have like. If we had someone like Richard Colliss in the beginning this may have been different. We are operating in an NRL market but soccer seems to be doing very well in this market. What is it that we could be doing to win the hearts and minds of NSW people? The Victorians are going to hate me but I believe we have to lose our Victorian history to a certain extent. It might be fortuitous to not promote the Victorian history of the club so loudly in NSW. The fact is many people, especially in Sydney, still see the Swans as a Melbourne club who is just here for the money. It doesn't matter how long we have been here many of my friends see it this way.
When I talk with people about the Swans who are NRL fans they say they won't follow them because they are not really Sydney, they come from Melbourne. GWS has got them well and truly flummoxed. They grind teeth and don't know where to hide on that one. My major point is Hawks are a powerhouse and that is that. The Swans still have a long way to go to win the Sydney market although we are slowly picking our way through the bigotry. Swans are on the right track but as Richard Colliss says we are in a very competitive market with many variables here in Sydney and building a strong supporter base is probably harder here than anywhere in Australia. After all if you don't continue winning people won't come out to play.
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Your points are just ridiculously biased. Your last comment is being reported to the moderators. What I am saying is I do think our packs are a bit light on. They do have a huge following and to say any different is just fooling yourself. you obviously hate Hawthorn, I don't hate any other team particularly, only when they play us. To hate a football club because they are successful or for any other shallow reason shows immaturity and lack of perception. There are indeed 10 teams in Victoria that have to share the loyalty of 5-6 million people. The swans have one team, and of course NRL teams, but still we have between 7 & 8 million people to woo between two AFL teams. We do well but could do better and the club recognises this. The outgoing president talked about his vision of 50,000 members for the Swans which should be attainable in the Sydney market within 5 years. The Hawks played GCS, Melbourne & St Kilda all of whom have very little supporter base in Melbourne, the first being a new club and the other two because they are losing. You tried to fudge figures. I am willing to give every club their due even Collingwood, the enemy of every other footy supporter, when they do well.
As far as going to the Hawks club it was an enjoyable experience and I would hope the Swans get our own club in the future, the Kings Cross idea was not really a good one. It would be amazing to go to a Swans club with all the facilities the hawks, Cats, Pies, Bombers clubs have. We have had a lot of years to develop the Sydney market and due to a series of misfortunes this has not been done as well as the current and near current administration would have like. If we had someone like Richard Colliss in the beginning this may have been different. We are operating in an NRL market but soccer seems to be doing very well in this market. What is it that we could be doing to win the hearts and minds of NSW people? The Victorians are going to hate me but I believe we have to lose our Victorian history to a certain extent. It might be fortuitous to not promote the Victorian history of the club so loudly in NSW. The fact is many people, especially in Sydney, still see the Swans as a Melbourne club who is just here for the money. It doesn't matter how long we have been here many of my friends see it this way.
When I talk with people about the Swans who are NRL fans they say they won't follow them because they are not really Sydney, they come from Melbourne. GWS has got them well and truly flummoxed. They grind teeth and don't know where to hide on that one. My major point is Hawks are a powerhouse and that is that. The Swans still have a long way to go to win the Sydney market although we are slowly picking our way through the bigotry. Swans are on the right track but as Richard Colliss says we are in a very competitive market with many variables here in Sydney and building a strong supporter base is probably harder here than anywhere in Australia. After all if you don't continue winning people won't come out to play.
As far as going to the Hawks club it was an enjoyable experience and I would hope the Swans get our own club in the future, the Kings Cross idea was not really a good one. It would be amazing to go to a Swans club with all the facilities the hawks, Cats, Pies, Bombers clubs have. We have had a lot of years to develop the Sydney market and due to a series of misfortunes this has not been done as well as the current and near current administration would have like. If we had someone like Richard Colliss in the beginning this may have been different. We are operating in an NRL market but soccer seems to be doing very well in this market. What is it that we could be doing to win the hearts and minds of NSW people? The Victorians are going to hate me but I believe we have to lose our Victorian history to a certain extent. It might be fortuitous to not promote the Victorian history of the club so loudly in NSW. The fact is many people, especially in Sydney, still see the Swans as a Melbourne club who is just here for the money. It doesn't matter how long we have been here many of my friends see it this way.
When I talk with people about the Swans who are NRL fans they say they won't follow them because they are not really Sydney, they come from Melbourne. GWS has got them well and truly flummoxed. They grind teeth and don't know where to hide on that one. My major point is Hawks are a powerhouse and that is that. The Swans still have a long way to go to win the Sydney market although we are slowly picking our way through the bigotry. Swans are on the right track but as Richard Colliss says we are in a very competitive market with many variables here in Sydney and building a strong supporter base is probably harder here than anywhere in Australia. After all if you don't continue winning people won't come out to play.
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Your points are just ridiculously biased. Your last comment is being reported to the moderators. What I am saying is I do think our packs are a bit light on. They do have a huge following and to say any different is just fooling yourself. you obviously hate Hawthorn, I don't hate any other team particularly, only when they play us. To hate a football club because they are successful or for any other shallow reason shows immaturity and lack of perception. There are indeed 10 teams in Victoria that have to share the loyalty of 5-6 million people. The swans have one team, and of course NRL teams, but still we have between 7 & 8 million people to woo between two AFL teams. We do well but could do better and the club recognises this. The outgoing president talked about his vision of 50,000 members for the Swans which should be attainable in the Sydney market within 5 years. The Hawks played GCS, Melbourne & St Kilda all of whom have very little supporter base in Melbourne, the first being a new club and the other two because they are losing. You tried to fudge figures. I am willing to give every club their due even Collingwood, the enemy of every other footy supporter, when they do well.
As far as going to the Hawks club it was an enjoyable experience and I would hope the Swans get our own club in the future, the Kings Cross idea was not really a good one. It would be amazing to go to a Swans club with all the facilities the hawks, Cats, Pies, Bombers clubs have. We have had a lot of years to develop the Sydney market and due to a series of misfortunes this has not been done as well as the current and near current administration would have like. If we had someone like Richard Colliss in the beginning this may have been different. We are operating in an NRL market but soccer seems to be doing very well in this market. What is it that we could be doing to win the hearts and minds of NSW people? The Victorians are going to hate me but I believe we have to lose our Victorian history to a certain extent. It might be fortuitous to not promote the Victorian history of the club so loudly in NSW. The fact is many people, especially in Sydney, still see the Swans as a Melbourne club who is just here for the money. It doesn't matter how long we have been here many of my friends see it this way.
When I talk with people about the Swans who are NRL fans they say they won't follow them because they are not really Sydney, they come from Melbourne. GWS has got them well and truly flummoxed. They grind teeth and don't know where to hide on that one. My major point is Hawks are a powerhouse and that is that. The Swans still have a long way to go to win the Sydney market although we are slowly picking our way through the bigotry. Swans are on the right track but as Richard Colliss says we are in a very competitive market with many variables here in Sydney and building a strong supporter base is probably harder here than anywhere in Australia. After all if you don't continue winning people won't come out to play.
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I hope you manage to get me banned. 
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