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  • 0918330512
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2011
    • 1654

    #46
    Originally posted by Matt80
    Not sure if these Buddy stories are correct!

    If there is some truth in the fact that Buddy is not fitting in culturally at the Swans, should Jarrad McVeigh take some accountability for this occurrence?

    He was the only player consulted in 2013, about the prospect of the Franklin recruitment according to Andrew Ireland!

    He came back and said the Franklin recruitment could work!

    If there is some disharmony in the playing group, then McVeigh needs to own the decision and bring everyone together! We all had heard how Buddy liked to live. We recruited him knowing that! We can't therefore expect Buddy to change his ways!

    McVeigh needs to tell the other players to live with Buddy and his ways and move forward! McVeigh was part of the recruitment process and is part accountable for this decision!
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    • Triple B
      Formerly 'BBB'
      • Feb 2003
      • 6999

      #47
      Originally posted by Matt80
      Brilliant Goods78. Good comparison with Peter Caven as this is similar to Buddy's physical treatment!!
      How so?
      Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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      • Matt80
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2013
        • 1802

        #48
        Originally posted by Triple B
        How so?
        Sorry! Accidentally wiped out the last part of the sentence! Lockett floored Caven then became a Swan, while Buddy floored Ted Richards then became a Swan! Both Lockett and Buddy were suspended for their hits!

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        • ugg
          Can you feel it?
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 15976

          #49
          I think you mean Malceski. But I'm not sure what Buddy did to Mal can even be compared to what Lockett did to Caven
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          • stellation
            scott names the planets
            • Sep 2003
            • 9723

            #50
            Originally posted by ugg
            I think you mean Malceski. But I'm not sure what Buddy did to Mal can even be compared to what Lockett did to Caven
            Agreed.
            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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            • Triple B
              Formerly 'BBB'
              • Feb 2003
              • 6999

              #51
              Originally posted by Matt80
              Sorry! Accidentally wiped out the last part of the sentence! Lockett floored Caven then became a Swan, while Buddy floored Ted Richards then became a Swan! Both Lockett and Buddy were suspended for their hits!
              More comedy gold. Thx for the laugh...
              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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              • Matt80
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2013
                • 1802

                #52
                Originally posted by liz
                More fuel on the fire of speculation that player unrest at the Swans is high - NOT. News of another Swan extending his tenure. That brings it to four since the signing of Buddy. I don't think any of us thought McVeigh was going anywhere, but confirmation of his re-commitment is good to read, regardless.

                New deal to make Jarrad McVeigh a Swan for life - AFL.com.au
                McVeigh is an excellent player!

                He is not blessed with the pace of a Brent Harvey! People on this forum have been critical of ROK's lack of pace as a 33 year old!

                McVeigh will turn 32 during 2017! Do people feel that he will still be able to contribute in 2017, with his leg speed, in light of the ROK perceived issues with leg speed?

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Matt80
                  McVeigh is an excellent player!

                  He is not blessed with the pace of a Brent Harvey! People on this forum have been critical of ROK's lack of pace as a 33 year old!

                  McVeigh will turn 32 during 2017! Do people feel that he will still be able to contribute in 2017, with his leg speed, in light of the ROK perceived issues with leg speed?
                  McVeigh is not slow. He's a medium paced player, has a good sidestep, and rarely gets caught holding the ball. Difficult to project what he will be like in 2017. If he's too slow, maybe we can trade him for Dustin Fletcher.

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                  • DeadlyAkkuret
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 4547

                    #54
                    Can't compare ROK to McVeigh. McVeigh's foot skills are far superior to O'Keefe's so he'll still be valuable if he loses a yard if pace.

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                    • joemoore12
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 284

                      #55
                      Let's all take a deep breath. The Melbourne based football media have been hysterical about Buddy's move to our club since they found out the deal was going ahead. They were filthy about the fact that none of them had heard anything about the biggest deal in football history until the Giants spat the dummy and told the football world that he wanted to play for us.

                      Consider these key points:

                      1. Buddy came to us outlining his desire to play for the Swans.
                      2. The club had twelve months to work on this deal and CONSIDER whether it was a good idea to recruit him.
                      3. The club have very rarely made a bad decision over the past ten years.
                      4. There has not been a single word to come out of the club about any issues relating to Buddy or any other player's behaviour.
                      5. Dan Hannebery's only fault is that he can't drive (This IS the same guy that we all fell in love with after the 2012 flag)
                      6. Why on earth would the club be concerned about any of our players being friends with wait for it??a TEAM MATE?????
                      6. All of our key players are re-signing with the club on relatively long term deals (no media coverage of these re-signings, as they clearly contradict the saturation of 'disharmony within the ranks' stories)
                      7. This has all been a massive overreaction to one bad performance
                      8. It will all work out. We will have a record club membership this year, we will win another flag in the next 3 years and Buddy will win many big games for us. Enjoy the panic coming out of Melbourne and be patient with our team.

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                      • The Big Cat
                        On the veteran's list
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2360

                        #56
                        Originally posted by liz
                        More fuel on the fire of speculation that player unrest at the Swans is high - NOT. News of another Swan extending his tenure. That brings it to four since the signing of Buddy. I don't think any of us thought McVeigh was going anywhere, but confirmation of his re-commitment is good to read, regardless.

                        New deal to make Jarrad McVeigh a Swan for life - AFL.com.au
                        Does anybody have the link to that page where there is a summary of the Swans players contract expiries etc.?
                        Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                        • Matt80
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1802

                          #57
                          Originally posted by joemoore12
                          Let's all take a deep breath. The Melbourne based football media have been hysterical about Buddy's move to our club since they found out the deal was going ahead. They were filthy about the fact that none of them had heard anything about the biggest deal in football history until the Giants spat the dummy and told the football world that he wanted to play for us.

                          Consider these key points:

                          1. Buddy came to us outlining his desire to play for the Swans.
                          2. The club had twelve months to work on this deal and CONSIDER whether it was a good idea to recruit him.
                          3. The club have very rarely made a bad decision over the past ten years.
                          4. There has not been a single word to come out of the club about any issues relating to Buddy or any other player's behaviour.
                          5. Dan Hannebery's only fault is that he can't drive (This IS the same guy that we all fell in love with after the 2012 flag)
                          6. Why on earth would the club be concerned about any of our players being friends with wait for it??a TEAM MATE?????
                          6. All of our key players are re-signing with the club on relatively long term deals (no media coverage of these re-signings, as they clearly contradict the saturation of 'disharmony within the ranks' stories)
                          7. This has all been a massive overreaction to one bad performance
                          8. It will all work out. We will have a record club membership this year, we will win another flag in the next 3 years and Buddy will win many big games for us. Enjoy the panic coming out of Melbourne and be patient with our team.
                          I think that the Melbourne media have moved on, and are now focused on the James Hird issue! James Hird has a second chance that few mortals would receive! I don't know why his wife did what she did? Sorry if I deviated from Swans talk!

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                          • Matt80
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 1802

                            #58
                            Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                            Can't compare ROK to McVeigh. McVeigh's foot skills are far superior to O'Keefe's so he'll still be valuable if he loses a yard if pace.
                            Can compare the two of them! They are both utilities who play mostly in the midfield! Agree McVeigh's foot skill are superior, but ROK's overhead marking, brute force at the contest and tackling is superior to MvVeigh's.

                            I fear that by 2017, McVeigh would be slower and may be struggling for a spot in the senior team, as the coaches play younger quicker players! Just look at what is happening this year to ROK!

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Matt80

                              I fear that by 2017, McVeigh would be slower and may be struggling for a spot in the senior team, as the coaches play younger quicker players! Just look at what is happening this year to ROK!
                              McVeigh will only be 32 in May of 2017, which is okay for a final year, if it is in fact his final year. Perhaps he will be depth player by that time, as ROK seems to be at age 33, at least for the start of the year.

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                              • 0918330512
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1654

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Matt80

                                Originally posted by Matt80
                                Good comparison with Peter Caven as this is similar to Buddy's physical treatment!!
                                Lockett floored Caven then became a Swan, while Buddy floored Ted Richards then became a Swan! Both Lockett and Buddy were suspended for their hits!
                                Really? That's a bit of an exaggerated comparison at best. & by a bit, I mean it's like you're comparing the aviation design of a humming bird (Buddy) with a Boing 747 (Lockett)

                                Ted was fine after his bump. Cavo was being fed intravenously followed by a well mushed, soft food diet for a month because his jaw didn't work. Buddy's was a bump that occurs several times a season. The severity of Plugger's effort occurs every several seasons.

                                Glad both Buddy & Plugger joined us tho. Have to see if we can get Nic Nat to take one of our guys out in round 16 as part of our recruiting strategy

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