AFL slaps trade ban on Swans

[S.S. Bleeder]

My understanding is the Swans had no plan to recruit this year.

But you're Uninformed so how would you know :-) ? What was the source of this Intel?

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Seems the Swans need to employ a financial planner.
3 Year contract on $300,000 per year is kinda a no brainer for a bank.

And what about year 4 when he's been delisted with no income? Don't you know anything about finance/lending?

[S.S. Bleeder]

- Funny how Tippett hasn't done @@@@ all and people always use him as one of the poster boys for evil COLA.

- Yes, all Essendon players combined will not get suspended for as many games as Tippett. Suspend the whole team? Can't have that - change the rules on the run then so they don't apply anymore!!!

- The Swans MUST win the flag next year, and hopefully then go back to back. That will be the last action we will see for a while. Brisbane and GC will be seen as lifestyle resorts for players, so Sydney won't have that edge either.

- Do I think the Swans will win the flag in '15 or '16? I think this trade ban is more significant than anyone realises. Even one player with any value is needed to help, in a butterfly effect sorta way. The AFL have achieved their secret agenda here - and Sydney just let it happen. Ryder or Patfull is what the Swans needed to maintain powerhouse status. That has been crushed.

I agree. Tippett was extremely disappointing last year but his 2013 (post suspension) was pretty good so I'm hoping he can relive that next year. I would have thought that with Buddy taking the no.1 back an this year he would have shone but for some reason he didn't.

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As a trained economist. Cost of living means in real terms, earning $300k in Sydney is equivalent to earning $265 in melbourne.

Well put! +1

[mcs]

I agree. Tippett was extremely disappointing last year but his 2013 (post suspension) was pretty good so I'm hoping he can relive that next year. I would have thought that with Buddy taking the no.1 back an this year he would have shone but for some reason he didn't.

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Well put! +1

To be perfectly honest, I think over the first 2 seasons, tippett hasn't reached what I would of called a 'pass mark'. He was good in the 2nd half of 2013, but struggled somewhat throughout 2014. He needs a really good pre season, and a good run with his knees, and hopefully he will start repaying properly the club for the big $$$ we are paying him.

[Jewels]

To be perfectly honest, I think over the first 2 seasons, tippett hasn't reached what I would of called a 'pass mark'. He was good in the 2nd half of 2013, but struggled somewhat throughout 2014. He needs a really good pre season, and a good run with his knees, and hopefully he will start repaying properly the club for the big $$$ we are paying him.

I agree Tipps wasn't great this year but I think his knees played a role in that, but I think his main value this year was the freedom having him on the paddock gave to Buddy!

[JPK12]

His kicking went back to what it was like at the crows unlike last year where he seemed to fix that awkward drop he had. Might be the knees.

[Meg]

Neil Cordy keeps up the good fight.

"If the AFL continue their two-year ban on the Swans trading in players for another year the damage to their on-field competitiveness will be severe."

Trade ban could see Sydney Swans fall down ladder, writes Neil Cordy

[jono2707]

Neil Cordy keeps up the good fight.

"If the AFL continue their two-year ban on the Swans trading in players for another year the damage to their on-field competitiveness will be severe."

Trade ban could see Sydney Swans fall down ladder, writes Neil Cordy

However that won't be met with much sympathy from many rival fans, who continue to accuse us of having had an unfair advantage over a number of seasons....

[liz]

Yep, many would claim it is the Swans' duty to fall down the ladder.

[JPK12]

Unlike Hawthorn who really think its their god given right to win flag after flag and play in as many grand finals as possible.

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However that won't be met with much sympathy from many rival fans, who continue to accuse us of having had an unfair advantage over a number of seasons....

But Hawthorn playing in 3 straight grand finals and winning 2 of them is good for the game.

[CureTheSane]

Not sure about all the criticism of Hawthorn doing the best they can do.
This is exactly what we complain about - when people criticise the Swans for being smart and acting within the rules.
A clubs job is to do all they can for the club, whether that be the Swans, Hawks or even the magpies.
The AFL's job is to regulate this and try to keep the competition even with the draft system etc.

[JPK12]

Not sure about all the criticism of Hawthorn doing the best they can do.
This is exactly what we complain about - when people criticise the Swans for being smart and acting within the rules.
A clubs job is to do all they can for the club, whether that be the Swans, Hawks or even the magpies.
The AFL's job is to regulate this and try to keep the competition even with the draft system etc.

Sure but when the hawks do it, its seen as fair and indication of a strong club. Fans are too busy convincing themselves that we are cheats and have over looked that the hawks and swans are similar in many ways (except for them having more talent on the park) and say nothing when the hawks keep recruiting guns and playing in grand finals, let alone winning them back to back.

But when we do it the narrative changes.

A bit like how we used to flood back with negative tactics hence we are destroying the game. Yet when vic teams used the same tactics they were smart defensivly and just getting numbers back..and it was clever coaching. Roos is basically doing the same at the dees but worst and well where are the calls of flooding and uglyness?

[CureTheSane]

Big deal. we won a flag through that tactic. Clubs complained, Andy D complained, we won a flag.
We sure showed them and they copied, then we moved on.

If you're going to complain that the Hawks have played in the last 3 Grand Finals, then you should also do so when the Swans dominate.
You can't have it both ways.
Either a club if free to be a Brisbane, or a geelong or a Harthorn, or a Sydney, or you should get on board with what the AFL are doing to further equalise the comp.

Obviously they see the Swans being a potential powerhouse for years, hence the unfairness.

what happens if they are wrong though? Instead of keeping things more level, they potentially are grinding us into the ground.
Their assumptions may be well off.
regardless, they set the ground rules, we followed them and we are being persecuted.

TBH I would be laughing if it was happening to most other clubs, so I don't expect much sympathy from other supporters.

[JPK12]

If you're going to complain that the Hawks have played in the last 3 Grand Finals, then you should also do so when the Swans dominate.
You can't have it both ways.
Either a club if free to be a Brisbane, or a geelong or a Harthorn, or a Sydney, or you should get on board with what the AFL are doing to further equalise the comp.

I am complaining about the narrative towards the swans in Melbourne and how by the same reasoning no one bitched when Geelong was dominating and no one is bitching now when hawks are winning. BUT when the swans or any other interstate team starts to dominate the victorians get all nasty and come out with utter stupidity. It was not that long ago there was talk about a summit to stop the interstate dominance. Well they it did again in 2013 and 14, this time under the guise of an equalisation bitchfest and how us "rorting" the system will see poor doggies and co go once again without a flag.

Boo hooo not the swans issue that those clubs are poorly administered!

TBH I would be laughing if it was happening to most other clubs, so I don't expect much sympathy from other supporters.

I dont laugh at other clubs unless they do something reckless and stupid, like the bombers. Maybe i dont have that bastardy that most vfl fans have when it comes to watching this code. While i will dabble in banter i wont take it to the next level like most victorian based fans do.

[AnnieH]

QCs.
Lots of them.

[Mel_C]

I read in the Herald Sun that the Essendon tribunal hearing might start December 15. Isn't that the same day we are fronting the commission? A ploy perhaps by the AFL to bury the outcome and hide their incompetence. Unbelievable!!