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  • Mel_C
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4470

    Originally posted by Meg
    I only turned on tv for GF as match began. (Now thinking about turning it off as it's bringing back bad memories of a year ago!)

    I assume Adam didn't take part in the motorcade as was anticipated. Can anyone confirm please?
    I was at the game and can confirm that Goodes wasn't there. At the end of the motorcade there was an empty car and an idiot hawks supporter said " Oh look there's Goodes' car". On the plus side at least I got to cheer Shaw ????.

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    • Mug Punter
      On the Rookie List
      • Nov 2009
      • 3325

      Originally posted by Mel_C
      I was at the game and can confirm that Goodes wasn't there. At the end of the motorcade there was an empty car and an idiot hawks supporter said " Oh look there's Goodes' car". On the plus side at least I got to cheer Shaw ??.
      I'm glad he didn't turn up, I certainly hope he gets the chance to be sent off with respect at the SCG next year.

      I watched most of the GF but napped through the second quarter. Have never been so lukewarm about a GF

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      Originally posted by Mel_C
      I was at the game and can confirm that Goodes wasn't there. At the end of the motorcade there was an empty car and an idiot hawks supporter said " Oh look there's Goodes' car". On the plus side at least I got to cheer Shaw ????.
      I'm glad he didn't turn up, I certainly hope he gets the chance to be sent off with respect at the SCG next year.

      I watched most of the GF but napped through the second quarter. Have never been so lukewarm about a GF

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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        Originally posted by Mel_C
        I was at the game and can confirm that Goodes wasn't there. At the end of the motorcade there was an empty car and an idiot hawks supporter said " Oh look there's Goodes' car". On the plus side at least I got to cheer Shaw [emoji2].
        Mel, or anyone else who was at the game, were the Hawthorn fans as obnoxious as last year? Or was 2014 a 'special' performance because of our recruitment of Buddy, and our winning in 2012?

        I could hear the Bronx cheers when Kennedy took a couple of marks late in the match, but in general from the TV coverage it was hard to tell what was happening in the crowd.

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        • Mel_C
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4470

          Originally posted by Meg
          Mel, or anyone else who was at the game, were the Hawthorn fans as obnoxious as last year? Or was 2014 a 'special' performance because of our recruitment of Buddy, and our winning in 2012?

          I could hear the Bronx cheers when Kennedy took a couple of marks late in the match, but in general from the TV coverage it was hard to tell what was happening in the crowd.
          The Hawks supporters around me were nothing like they are when we play the Hawks. Yeah they were arrogant, (and why shouldn't they after winning 3 in a row), but they weren't abusive to the Eagles players or supporters. That's not to say that it wasn't bad in other areas of the ground but I couldn't hear any booing like Goodes was subjected to, just the Kennedy bronx cheer which was warranted!

          The thing is that they don't hate the Eagles like they hate us or other teams like Geelong. I never had any issues with their supporters until after the 2012 grand final. Then after that there was venom!

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            There's a nice image from the NRL of Jonathan Thurston's daughter holding a black doll. Compare this to the racist images that dominated the AFL the last 2 years. 2 different codes. 2 different ways of treating their champions.

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            • Mug Punter
              On the Rookie List
              • Nov 2009
              • 3325

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              There's a nice image from the NRL of Jonathan Thurston's daughter holding a black doll. Compare this to the racist images that dominated the AFL the last 2 years. 2 different codes. 2 different ways of treating their champions.

              Such a beautiful photo.

              And I agree that the NRL treat their indigenous players with a lot more respect.

              Even Anthony Mundine, who was probably over-hated due to his aboriginality, but who was also genuinely offensive (often to fellow indigenous sportsmen) in his wannabe Muhammad Ali persona never received the hatred that Goodesy got this year

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                Originally posted by Mug Punter
                Such a beautiful photo.

                And I agree that the NRL treat their indigenous players with a lot more respect.

                Even Anthony Mundine, who was probably over-hated due to his aboriginality, but who was also genuinely offensive (often to fellow indigenous sportsmen) in his wannabe Muhammad Ali persona never received the hatred that Goodesy got this year
                The NRL is miles ahead of AFL in many ways. Last nights grand final was one of the best sporitng events ive ever seen. Im now a big fan of night grand finals.

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  We we seated right behind the broncos cheer leaders who had one aboriginal dancer. Around us were heaps of cowboy supporters.
                  The aboriginal girl got up and did a little solo dance during a stoppage. First thing that i thought of was ... oh @@@@ this is going to be ugly. But i didn't hear a since racist jibe or comment from the crowd. Imagine that at a west coast game ?

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                  • Mug Punter
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3325

                    Originally posted by barry
                    The NRL is miles ahead of AFL in many ways. Last nights grand final was one of the best sporitng events ive ever seen. Im now a big fan of night grand finals.
                    I have lost interest in the NRL since Super League but last night was simply unbelievable as a game. The 2005 GF is also hard to beat, very similar in that the match depends on a play in the last second of the match.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16787

                      To be fair, it was the crowds - and (I think) a relatively small percentage of them - guilty of the disrespect. And maybe the AFL was lukewarm to the issue. But the clubs and players were outward in their support for Goodes and the condemnation of the treatment he received.

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                      • Melbourne_Blood
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2010
                        • 3312

                        Originally posted by barry
                        We we seated right behind the broncos cheer leaders who had one aboriginal dancer. Around us were heaps of cowboy supporters.
                        The aboriginal girl got up and did a little solo dance during a stoppage. First thing that i thought of was ... oh @@@@ this is going to be ugly. But i didn't hear a since racist jibe or comment from the crowd. Imagine that at a west coast game ?
                        I think that's drawing a long now Barry. Perth fans boo any and all Aboriginals unreservedly now do they ? Give me a spell

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8177

                          Originally posted by Mel_C
                          The Hawks supporters around me were nothing like they are when we play the Hawks. Yeah they were arrogant, (and why shouldn't they after winning 3 in a row), but they weren't abusive to the Eagles players or supporters. That's not to say that it wasn't bad in other areas of the ground but I couldn't hear any booing like Goodes was subjected to, just the Kennedy bronx cheer which was warranted!

                          The thing is that they don't hate the Eagles like they hate us or other teams like Geelong. I never had any issues with their supporters until after the 2012 grand final. Then after that there was venom!
                          I agree. Never had any real issues with them before 2012, but since then its been vitriolic, and since Buddy came to the Swans, its become feral to put it nicely.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • Doctor
                            Bay 29
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2757

                            I think both codes have lauded indigenous players equally, until any of them dare speak up about the plight affecting their people.
                            Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              I think that's drawing a long now Barry. Perth fans boo any and all Aboriginals unreservedly now do they ? Give me a spell
                              The booing of goodes was racist, done by racists.

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                              • Melbourne_Blood
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2010
                                • 3312

                                Originally posted by barry
                                The booing of goodes was racist, done by racists.
                                A long established and accepted fact that racism was a major factor in that, albeit a racism that manifested in booing that extended only to Goodes ( And we all know the reasons why, proud black man shaking up the establishment, many couldn't handle it, booing begins etc) , not to any other aboriginal player in the league. I love how you are able to twist things at your convenience to suit the narrative that suits you. You use it to great effect In your ANZ stadium rants. It's a great skill.

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