draft !

[Auntie.Gerald]

is george hewetts brother in this draft ?

[Conor_Dillon]

is george hewetts brother in this draft ?

Yep! Cameron...tipped to be a late 2nd - early 3rd round pick.

[Mug Punter]

is george hewetts brother in this draft ?

Cameron gets a write-up here by Emma the draft guru so I assume he has nominated

2015 AFL draft: combine harvester: Small and medium defenders

He gets a good all round rap but I haven't heard him mentioned in despatches - imagine he may well go in the 40s or 50s as there would be quite a few players bunched around there

[Auntie.Gerald]

Cameron Hewett (26/2/1997. 189cm, 76kg. SA North Adelaide)
Medium defender/midfielder
AFL biography: Very clever defender/midfielder with good football smarts and game sense. Rarely loses his feet in the contest and also spreads hard to create opportunities for his teammates. Excels at the stoppages where he uses his body to ensure he gets first opportunity to extract the ball. Played two games for South Australia at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 19 disposals and 4.5 clearances. Brother of Sydney's George Hewett.
"Cameron is very similar to his brother in that he can play midfield, play back, play forward and get hold of the ball really well. He can struggle a bit on the execution of his kick - that would be his weak point - but he can find the footy and he can do it really well."
Brenton Phillips, SA talent manager.


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[707]

FMD! - Twomey's latest mail has Mills being bid on at pick 3 but Hopper not being bid on until pick 9. How can that be, Mills hardly pulled on a boot all year and Hopper had a great year topping the Champion Data pecking order.

Why would any club give GWS an easy ride? Hopper is top 5 by any measure. This smells really fishy, Melbourne again doing the dirty on us. I'm really angry if this is how it pans out tomorrow night.

[Steve]

The concept of the bidding is OK in theory - if a club genuinely rates an Academy or FS player as the best available, they pick them and see if it is matched.

But in reality, how closely are other clubs actually assessing guys like Mills, Hopper etc? Are they going to a Swans reserves game to get a glimpse of Mills, repeatedly meeting with Hopper's family/coaches/teachers to get an insight into whether he's a 'solid citizen' or not? Scrutinising their medical records, pouring over video clips of all their games for the last 3 years?

Of course not - they know they're good, but they're hardly going down to fine details genuinely assessing and comparing these players, once they know they will be taken via a matched bid.

Pridham is right - the hype over these Academy players is the overriding factor when other clubs are considering bids. That and the implied threats from the AFL that they expect clubs to bid and will question things if bids don't come.

I can't think of another junior player who hasn't played in their final U/18 season and their stocks actually keep rising like Mills have.

Hopefully he is the best player in the draft and proves that over a long career - but the whole process is quite uncomfortable.

[Ludwig]

FMD! - Twomey's latest mail has Mills being bid on at pick 3 but Hopper not being bid on until pick 9. How can that be, Mills hardly pulled on a boot all year and Hopper had a great year topping the Champion Data pecking order.

Why would any club give GWS an easy ride? Hopper is top 5 by any measure. This smells really fishy, Melbourne again doing the dirty on us. I'm really angry if this is how it pans out tomorrow night.

There may be a presumption that Melbourne will honour a no bidding deal with GWS due to a favourable trading relationship. Roos is still angry he wasn't able to snare Lloyd Perris from us. Petracca was crying out all year for a rehap playmate. Then we go and delist him. We should just feel lucky that Melbourne didn't have the number one pick.

I wouldn't be surprised if Melbourne bid for Dunkley right after Mills. Roos will probably use him as a tacking dummy just to piss off his dad.

On a more serious note, everyone seems to think Mills will be bid at pick 3. We've got enough points in the bank for that, so it should be a reasonable draft for us regardless of what follows.

[Steve]

In reality we need Mills (and ideally also Hopper) bid on early - if they're not, it would be a shortlived bonus.

If we got him for a perceived steal, the acrimony would be unbearable from McGuire et al and somehow there would be more restrictions implemented re: the whole Academy process.

So probably best for us to suck it up and actually hope an early bid is made - then hope Mills is worth it anyway and whoever else we get is an added bonus.

[The Big Cat]

If Mills goes at 3 then I figure with the points we give away we will have a bit of pick 43 left plus pick 53. Given that these picks will probably be elevated half a dozen spots with picks obliterated to accommodate Mills and Hopper (and more if other GWS boys get bid on), plus the standard 197 point discounts to all players after pick 18, then I reckon if Dunkley lasts to around pick 30 (Callum Toomey doesn't have him in top 30) then we can avoid going into deficit.

[Mug Punter]

In reality we need Mills (and ideally also Hopper) bid on early - if they're not, it would be a shortlived bonus.

If we got him for a perceived steal, the acrimony would be unbearable from McGuire et al and somehow there would be more restrictions implemented re: the whole Academy process.

So probably best for us to suck it up and actually hope an early bid is made - then hope Mills is worth it anyway and whoever else we get is an added bonus.

I agree, we actually need this system and for players go for fair value for the like of potato head to shut up. We need other clubs to bid fairly - if the Dees pass on GWS players on both their picks there should be some questions asked as I reckon that the Bombers will pick Hopper with 5. Kennedy at 9 matched by the Dees would be a huge win for GWS as it is - if he goes into double figures then there really should be an outcry. But then again the Bombers should also pick without fear or favour and you could well argue that if both Hopper and Kennedy are available when they have their pick 6 and 7 that they should select both of them if they genuinely would draft those guys. That should be any club's position with this system

Also we need to let players pass into the general pool - we call bluffs and the system starts working how it should (i.e. adding to the overall player pool albeit with our right of priority).

We only need to draft the two anyway and I wouldn't be surprised if we only take the two and shut up shop so there isn't a huge downside for us getting him go at 3.

[Mug Punter]

If Mills goes at 3 then I figure with the points we give away we will have a bit of pick 43 left plus pick 53. Given that these picks will probably be elevated half a dozen spots with picks obliterated to accommodate Mills and Hopper (and more if other GWS boys get bid on), plus the standard 197 point discounts to all players after pick 18, then I reckon if Dunkley lasts to around pick 30 (Callum Toomey doesn't have him in top 30) then we can avoid going into deficit.

I make it 23 or 24, 611 points (378 + 233) plus 197 = 808. I really think we might go into deficit a little (up to 100 points) because the difference between what we pay for him and what we might get at early 40s could be quite a bit. Unless we have some decent targets in that range that we really like the look of.

Gawd I'll be glad when tomorrow night is done and dusted

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If Mills goes at 3 then I figure with the points we give away we will have a bit of pick 43 left plus pick 53. Given that these picks will probably be elevated half a dozen spots with picks obliterated to accommodate Mills and Hopper (and more if other GWS boys get bid on), plus the standard 197 point discounts to all players after pick 18, then I reckon if Dunkley lasts to around pick 30 (Callum Toomey doesn't have him in top 30) then we can avoid going into deficit.

I make it 23 or 24, 611 points (378 + 233) plus 197 = 808. I really think we might go into deficit a little (up to 100 points) because the difference between what we pay for him and what we might get at early 40s could be quite a bit. Unless we have some decent targets in that range that we really like the look of.

Gawd I'll be glad when tomorrow night is done and dusted

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If Mills goes at 3 then I figure with the points we give away we will have a bit of pick 43 left plus pick 53. Given that these picks will probably be elevated half a dozen spots with picks obliterated to accommodate Mills and Hopper (and more if other GWS boys get bid on), plus the standard 197 point discounts to all players after pick 18, then I reckon if Dunkley lasts to around pick 30 (Callum Toomey doesn't have him in top 30) then we can avoid going into deficit.

I make it 23 or 24, 611 points (378 + 233) plus 197 = 808. I really think we might go into deficit a little (up to 100 points) because the difference between what we pay for him and what we might get at early 40s could be quite a bit. Unless we have some decent targets in that range that we really like the look of.

Gawd I'll be glad when tomorrow night is done and dusted

[Rod_]

I guess if Roosy (AKA Melbourne) goes for Mills at #3 and Dunkley at #7 I guess it will raise some interest to why and we could ask is there any bad blood ... Just a feeling..

[707]

Dunkley should go late 20s or later according to almost all knowledgable phantom drafts. Reckon we would go into a small 2016 deficit for Dunkley, 100 points off our second rounder next year slips us about 5 spots which in a deep draft is no biggie.

If we pass on Dunkley our next pick will be in the very speculative early 50s which is likely to be a bust. Better to get a known quality player IMO.

[707]

Just remembered we also have pick 69 (49 points) that we got from the Bullies in the Talia trade. By the time Dunkley gets bid on it will have drifted up to early 60s and be worth 100 points +, maybe saving us from going into deficit in 2016.

[Auntie.Gerald]

i think the phantom draft is way out this season

example

i had ryan clarke top 15

twomey has him pick 30