Is it already Killing Season 2016 (List Management) after 2 rounds

[wolftone57]

Those at risk on our list have to be Derrickx, Hiscox, Marsh, Johnson (if his knee doesn't come good), Foote and Melican.

Foote is a pretty solid player but disposal can be an issue, he would be likely to make it at another club. Very hard at it inside mid.

Hiscox has not shown enough and his disposal is sub-standard for AFL. If he doesn't pick this up by the end of the year he might just find himself delisted, fast or not.

Derrickx was depth just in case a ruckman got injured and now we have Galloway as a developer, Nankervis, Naismith on a long contract, Tippett and Sinclair. Tom will be delisted.

Marsh is playing some good footy and he might attract some bidders from other sides.

Melican has done nothing wrong except get injured. But he might just be a victim of the late start.

Richards and McGlinn I believe will retire at the end of the season.

Newman may be moved on but I wouldn't think so yet. Murray, Papley are both in their first year. We have had a good look at Tom Papley and he's a beauty. I believe Murray might just shock a few people too now he is back from his injury. Time for these two.

X richards needs to develop this year, same with Aliir although I think they always though of Aliir as a long term prospect and he's starting to develop nicely. X still makes the same rookie mistakes he did in his first year like poor decision making or dithering over options. Needs to think quicker.

[Maltopia]

With a list of 44 plus international rookies, we (and other clubs) will have players that they know won't ever make it into the 1s, but add something to the club. E.g., leadership/mentoring for the 2s, providing a strong 2s performance (to help those with real potential get proper development) etc.

I think Ryan O'Keefe may have been kept on the list in his final year partly to be a hard body in the 2s to protect some of the younger developing players.

Aliir along with any potential upside as a football player also gives us the benefit of having someone who gives us something very different in the AFL Multicultural Ambassador program which will help grow the game and supporter base for the Swans. E.g., more fans from African backgrounds.

AJ is providing mentoring/coaching, but also what a great story/promotion he gives us in terms of his personal resilience, and the Swans sticking by him.

Nankers and Derickx - we need two-three ruckmen for the 2s (to cover injury/depth) so the younger players can develop/learn the game plan in real match conditions (winning half the hit-outs). Plus to cover injury in the 1s. We need Naismith to be injured less and Galloway to develop. Plus it takes a long time to develop a new ruckman.

As long as the list isn't "carrying" players at the expense of not getting players we would have otherwise drafted/traded for, then really, all we need to do each year is the mandatory list cuts (which include retirements announced in time). I think with Ted and Benny possibly retiring, we would only be looking to delist another three players to give us five picks in the national and pre-season draft before considering any trades?

I don't think a list cull is required as you will find the same sorts of players we have been talking about on the lists of other top clubs.

[S.S. Bleeder]

According to 3aw we and the Brisbane Lions are interested in Jack Steele (GWS) is this a back up for if Mitchell leaves or.. A genuine recruit to start like Kennedy?

That's a concern. We would only be interested in him if we thought that Mitchell was going to leave.

[Nico]

We have a plethora of midfielders even without Mitchell. Just another media made up rumour. They have gone early this year on "the old Tom Mitchell" rumour.

[aardvark]

If Carlton want Mitchell i'd swap him for Weitering in a heart beat.

[iigrover]

Excellent thread WA.

Papley (still early days), Lloyd, Cunningham, Towers and Melican would be great to retain and shouldn't effect our affordability.

Harry's just signed a three year extension.

[Ludwig]

A lot of pundits saying Carlton should trade Gibbs out. What's the point of trading one top midfielder out and get another in. I don't see how this helps their side except going a few years younger. I think we are doing the perfect thing to hold on to Mitchell. We're challenging for a premiership. Going to Carlton means end of a competitive career and just playing for the money.

If Towers can't manage to hold down a spot this year he will probably be on the trade table. There are too many coming through the system that will challenge his spot. At the very least Rose and Dawson. I hope he makes it, but he needs to take his chances now.

[Cosmic Wizard]

Just to move this thread on a bit.

Essendon can't keep all of its top ups and the 12 suspended players so there are a couple of gems there.

And moving away from Melbourne for some of them would be ideal.

Dyson Heppell, after suing the club, is not going back.

He is quality, and that is what we always need rather that just depth players.

We should be on the phone to his manager now!

[chalbilto]

Heppell is a quality player but I would rather that they make play for Hurley as we need a replacement for Teddy. We have plenty of quality mid-field players on the roster.

[Doctor]

Heppell is a quality player but I would rather that they make play for Hurley as we need a replacement for Teddy. We have plenty of quality mid-field players on the roster.

Couldn't agree more.

[stellation]

That's a concern. We would only be interested in him if we thought that Mitchell was going to leave.

I think pretty much every team in the AFL would be interested in him if he's genuinely available, I wouldn't read too much into it.

[707]

Be an interesting trade period and draft.

How many of the Essendon 12 will exercise their right to become FA? If some of the big guns leave Essendon will monopolise the start of the draft. Say Hurley, Heppell and Hooker left, Essendon would have picks 1,2,3,4!

There are several younger top ups in the Essendon side that are showing enough to get drafted at the ND. Of interest to us must be KPD Hartley a NSW boy. Essendon have no rights on these guys and if they want them must draft them the same as any other team.

The ND - GWS have at least three first round selections, Gold Coast have two plus three second rounders. There are a number of very good GWS Academy players, not sure if any of ours will be draftable.

Our first round selection this year will be pick 18, or pick 21 if the Essendon big three fly to nest :-)

[RogueSwan]

... Heppell, after suing the club, is not going back.

He is quality, and that is what we always need rather that just depth players.

We should be on the phone to his manager now!

Heppel will stay on with the Bombers, he will settle out of court and it will be one way for Essendon to pay him more outside of the salary cap.

[chalbilto]

Heppel will stay on with the Bombers, he will settle out of court and it will be one way for Essendon to pay him more outside of the salary cap.

Hadn't really thought about that. Surely this loophole has to be addressed by Gillion & co. It would be an unfair advantage and Eddie would have to protest.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Heppel will stay on with the Bombers, he will settle out of court and it will be one way for Essendon to pay him more outside of the salary cap.

We need a KPD ot two. HURLEY and one other. Let Bombers pay him and then we pick him up.

Hurley is the prototype we require.

Teddy & Reg have been total guns & top 10 defenders for years but their ground ball pressure and lack of agility/foot speed have been exposed over the last 18 months.

We can play both at the SCG but nowhere else. Ramps to CHB (play like Rance), Reg still at FB, back flank to Jones, Marsh, Newman or Aliir.

McVeigh kicked poorly at HBF but our best/ smart HFF.

Much better for me and I believe both Reid and Rohan have plenty to offer.