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  • TheDaneTrain
    Registered User
    • Oct 2014
    • 2

    #76
    Originally posted by barry
    You would never waste a 1st rounder on a defender. Leave that to Richmond.
    Didnt we get Ted with a first rounder?

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    • YvonneH
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2011
      • 1141

      #77
      Even if Ted was a 1st rounder I think he played more as a forward for Essendon and we made him into a defender ( a very good one at that).

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      • ugg
        Can you feel it?
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 15970

        #78
        Originally posted by TheDaneTrain
        Didnt we get Ted with a first rounder?
        We gave Essendon a first round AND a third round pick.
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        • YvonneH
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2011
          • 1141

          #79
          Originally posted by ugg
          We gave Essendon a first round AND a third round pick.
          In hindsight I would say we won that trade. Who did they pick, does anyone know?

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          • jono2707
            Goes up to 11
            • Oct 2007
            • 3326

            #80
            Originally posted by YvonneH
            In hindsight I would say we won that trade. Who did they pick, does anyone know?
            They got Courtney Dempsey and Sam Lonergan, so they did ok. But we did better.

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            • WauchopeAnalyst
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2008
              • 834

              #81
              With Kizza getting a further 3 years, Mitchell is now in the Treloar category, last man standing and huge money from Carlton.

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              • YvonneH
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2011
                • 1141

                #82
                Originally posted by WauchopeAnalyst
                With Kizza getting a further 3 years, Mitchell is now in the Treloar category, last man standing and huge money from Carlton.
                About to say the same thing except it was Jetta as last man standing. Hope I am wrong.

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                • Mug Punter
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3325

                  #83
                  Originally posted by WauchopeAnalyst
                  With Kizza getting a further 3 years, Mitchell is now in the Treloar category, last man standing and huge money from Carlton.
                  It's possible and the longer we go now without Tom re-signing the more likely this becomes. We're clearly very actively re-signing players now and if we don't hear anything positive in three weeks I reckon he is gone. Hewett I expect to re-sign as well and Robbo , Paley and Lloyd who should be fairly straightforward re-signings as well along the lines of Harry.

                  Towers may well be in notice though I'd like us to persevere with him if the price is right.

                  I still think he'll re-sign but it may well be that we do the maths and decide that we lock in Heeney and Mills to long term deals instead and trade Tom. He's be worth real trade value and I could see a trade with Tom being a player plus pick that addresses our very immediate need for a KPD though I think it is possible Ted could go on for one more year.

                  I'd like to keep Tom very much but regardless of what happens we'll have the core of a very very good squad to be firmly in the premiership window for the next three years

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                  • Bloody Hell
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3085

                    #84
                    Originally posted by bloodspirit
                    Very interesting point. I think it could be difficult to guard against this. How can you close such a 'loophole'?
                    You don't. It's a civil matter and quite frankly Heppell, and the rest of the players affected deserve everything they get. The only thing youy hope for is it's enough to bankrupt Essendon.

                    Essendon was never going to win the premiership this year, and it will turn into a great year for them. They're able to pump games into their youngsters, give a years rest to their top players and come out the end of it will good draft picks. It will give them a great launch pad for a shot in the next 4-5 years.
                    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11337

                      #85
                      Originally posted by WauchopeAnalyst
                      With Kizza getting a further 3 years, Mitchell is now in the Treloar category, last man standing and huge money from Carlton.
                      I know a chap who is a good friend of Barry Mitchell and he says he has never been interested in Carlton. Why would he want to go to a club that isn't going to have success in donkeys years. Again just someone from the 10,000 accredited AFL journo club who struggles to find a story so makes it up.

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                      Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                      You don't. It's a civil matter and quite frankly Heppell, and the rest of the players affected deserve everything they get. The only thing youy hope for is it's enough to bankrupt Essendon.

                      Essendon was never going to win the premiership this year, and it will turn into a great year for them. They're able to pump games into their youngsters, give a years rest to their top players and come out the end of it will good draft picks. It will give them a great launch pad for a shot in the next 4-5 years.
                      They had an ordinary list last year. They will lose a lot of their better players to other clubs. They will be down with Carlton for a long time.
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                      • WolfGang
                        Pushing for Selection
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 68

                        #86
                        Bloody Hell - Essendon is one of the wealthier clubs - with a billionaire in their ex Chairman - Little (who owns Toll transport) so while the fines will impact them, they are not part of any salary cap - so impact on drafting players. { Who do you think that paid Hirds fine ??? }
                        If you listen to SEN in Melbourne as I do - they have mentioned that 2 of the 12 suspended players have already re-signed to into 2017 and beyond - Colyer and someone else that I don't rember.
                        If Essendon loose even 2 to 3 players - they will likely receive early round 1 draft pick compensation - so if Hooker (age 28) goes to Freo - and any other players - Essendon may get a draft picks that turns out to be in the top 5 picks - they are likely to be bottom 4 anyway - so if players go - and players leave - they could end up with 3 to 4 picks in the rd 1 of draft picks.
                        All they need to do is find the next Weitering - and they have a win, win year.

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                        • Mug Punter
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 3325

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                          You don't. It's a civil matter and quite frankly Heppell, and the rest of the players affected deserve everything they get. The only thing youy hope for is it's enough to bankrupt Essendon.

                          Essendon was never going to win the premiership this year, and it will turn into a great year for them. They're able to pump games into their youngsters, give a years rest to their top players and come out the end of it will good draft picks. It will give them a great launch pad for a shot in the next 4-5 years.
                          No way could Essendon be bankrupted and out of business but I could well see the impact of class actions make them seriously have to consider selling a controlling stake to private interests. And they'd have no shortage of bidders because long term they are a blue chip club. They just have poor market sentiment at the moment

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                          • Bloods05
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1641

                            #88
                            Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                            Wow! When? Where? Wouldn't you think that they'd be more discrete about it?
                            Lunch is pretty discrete. Brunch, not so much.

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                            • Levii3
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 655

                              #89
                              Just watched the Dockers game they are 0-5 Ross Lyon doesn't know how to build and regenerate a team i think we should make a play for Stephen Hill he still only 25 he's quick a good kick can play midfield or link player out of D would be a great addition highly unlikely but I hope we try

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                              • Maltopia
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1556

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Levii3
                                Just watched the Dockers game they are 0-5 Ross Lyon doesn't know how to build and regenerate a team i think we should make a play for Stephen Hill he still only 25 he's quick a good kick can play midfield or link player out of D would be a great addition highly unlikely but I hope we try
                                Hill is contracted till the end of 2019 and has family in WA (very important for an Indigenous player). Who would we trade for him that is willing to go to WA?

                                Lachie Neal (from SA) is a more likely prospects as he is out of contract this year, and the longer it isn't signed, the greater the chance that he is looking to leave (like some are saying about our own Mitchell). Barlow and Mayne are also out of contract at the end of this year. Mayne is from WA and is a 6'2" forward so both unlikely and not a good fit. Barlow is from Victoria and a big midfielder, but he is the same age as Kennedy so can't see us wanting him either.

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