Is it already Killing Season 2016 (List Management) after 2 rounds

[mcs]

I see from the OS that both Mills and Heeney are signed up on initial three year deals so that takes away any urgency re young Isaac.

Looking ahead at our list changes for this year, I'd say we have the following outs - Tom Dx, AJ, Xav and probably Ted. That would see us drafting three players and upgrading Papley. If we want to upgrade Nic too then we'd need to either increase the senior list or release an additional player. I see Harry Marsh is listed as a senior player, is that correct? If so, then it would be a shootout between him and Nic I suspect. Colin O'Riordan will also be pushing for an upgrade too I suspect but I suspect we may well keep him on the rookie list for an additional season and not rush his development as there's no need to rush that kid, he is only 21.

But then again I also think we'll be looking at bringing in an established KPD as well as using our first round draft pick to select the best available KPD. Unless we really believe Reid can handle that slot long term, which I don't btw. Which begs the question, how do we fit this in to our list management.

It's an early call but I'll make it now and it's that we'll be trading an established player at season end as part of a KPD deal that may also involve a draft pick upgrade for either club. It will probably be the only trade business we do as our list is so well balanced.

For mine there's probably only three players we'd consider letting go that have any currency and they are Rohan, Reid and Mitchell.

IMO it will only be Mitchell if he wants to leave and I don't think Gary would be worth much at the trade table. But Reid would be and I think we could get a very good KPD in and because he is on top coin (about $500K a year apparently) we'd have no salary cap issues. I like Reid but I don't think he is earning his current salary (even when not injured) and he could well benefit from a change in scenery too.

Marsh is on the rookie list - we delisted him last year but picked him back up as a rookie.

[chalbilto]

It has been reported on the AFL website that in 2017 Reid and Rohan become free agents. I hope that the club resigns them to new contracts by the beginning of next season as I feel that they will be integral to the playing list.

[Levii3]

It has been reported on the AFL website that in 2017 Reid and Rohan become free agents. I hope that the club resigns them to new contracts by the beginning of next season as I feel that they will be integral to the playing list.

I love Gary but he's played 61 games in 6? years better of drafting a 18 year old with speed if Gary wants to leave if he wants to stay then sign him if he doesn't ask too much salary wise

[chalbilto]

Hey Levii3,

Don't forget he was out of the game for virtually 2 seasons due to that horrendous broken leg so he deserves some slack.

[Mug Punter]

I love Gary but he's played 61 games in 6? years better of drafting a 18 year old with speed if Gary wants to leave if he wants to stay then sign him if he doesn't ask too much salary wise

I think we'll give Gary every chance to prove he deserves a new deal but right now he's a 50/50 bet in my book.

Reid I think is more interesting. IMO he has not earned his $500,000 a year over the last four years. He's teased us with glimpses of what he is capable of but we're still waiting for him to play a full four quarters and tear a game apart. It's a harsh assessment but I think a true one. I rate him but he frustrates the hell out of me.

If we want to make a play for Hurley then we'll need that $500,000 and Reid plus Ted retiring would give us ample coin to get him in our cap. It's a big call but I'd much prefer Hurley at CHB than Reid's little cameos. We won't get a huge trade deal as the main purpose would be getting him off the salary bill but I'm sure a club like a Brisbane would quite happy pay him silly money for a couple of second round picks which we could then bank into our academy kids

[Levii3]

Hey Levii3,

Don't forget he was out of the game for virtually 2 seasons due to that horrendous broken leg so he deserves some slack.

I think we've given plenty of slack to rohan in the last two year he's played one good game against North that was two years ago last year he was ordinary some players never get a good run at it because of injuries like Rohan and the Reid brothers at some point you need to pull the plug

[Mug Punter]

I think we've given plenty of slack to rohan in the last two year he's played one good game against North that was two years ago last year he was ordinary some players never get a good run at it because of injuries like Rohan and the Reid brothers at some point you need to pull the plug

I'm glad he's got next season too but he's definitely playing for his career, with us anyway. You'd think if we don't keep him another club will throw him a lifeline

[liz]

Emerging Swans defender signs contract extension - AFL.com.au

Mr All Australian earns himself another two years on the list.

[Mug Punter]

Emerging Swans defender signs contract extension - AFL.com.au

Mr All Australian earns himself another two years on the list.

That's a great result for us and for him, he's a late developer for obvious reasons but I liked what I saw the other week and I think he can be part of our next generation. I like we've given him the confidence and security of a two year extension

[707]

That can put to bed the thoughts that AA could be a delist victim. That the club has seen fit to extend him means that he is doing a lot right, should have a bright future.

Same goes for BJ who was given an extra two years, they have faith he will make the grade, just taking time to get there.

Future's so bright, gotta wear shades!

[Luke Shannon]

That's a great result for us and for him, he's a late developer for obvious reasons but I liked what I saw the other week and I think he can be part of our next generation. I like we've given him the confidence and security of a two year extension

At the start of the thread I predicted that the Swans would only keep one of Alire or X. Richards. They seem to have made their choice.

With Talia and Reid likely to be available for the 2nd half of the year (Talia is now listed at 2-3 weeks), I don't see X. Richards having an opportunity to turn his fortunes around.

[Mug Punter]

At the start of the thread I predicted that the Swans would only keep one of Alire or X. Richards. They seem to have made their choice.

With Talia and Reid likely to be available for the 2nd half of the year (Talia is now listed at 2-3 weeks), I don't see X. Richards having an opportunity to turn his fortunes around.

Shame really but that's life.

I can really see us using our first rounder at this year's draft for a KPD but they can take a bit longer to develop so it will be interesting to see how we approach the defender situation at season end.

Does Ted have another year in him? I think it would be a brave call as a KPD but if he's prepared to take a salary haircut and play as the third defender then maybe. Can Reid step up? Don't know as we never seem to play him in the same slot two weeks in a row. Rampe has been doing a decent job on the third tall but I just think he lacks the stature as a KPD.

Talia's development will be interesting, I see him as a decent third tall defender so I really don't think he solves anything except giving us better depth.

[Nico]

I love Gary but he's played 61 games in 6? years better of drafting a 18 year old with speed if Gary wants to leave if he wants to stay then sign him if he doesn't ask too much salary wise

Kinnear says there is a lack of leg speed in the 2016 draft pool.

I suspect how they perform from now on will dictate their value to the club. Both are injury prone.

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I think we'll give Gary every chance to prove he deserves a new deal but right now he's a 50/50 bet in my book.

Reid I think is more interesting. IMO he has not earned his $500,000 a year over the last four years. He's teased us with glimpses of what he is capable of but we're still waiting for him to play a full four quarters and tear a game apart. It's a harsh assessment but I think a true one. I rate him but he frustrates the hell out of me.

If we want to make a play for Hurley then we'll need that $500,000 and Reid plus Ted retiring would give us ample coin to get him in our cap. It's a big call but I'd much prefer Hurley at CHB than Reid's little cameos. We won't get a huge trade deal as the main purpose would be getting him off the salary bill but I'm sure a club like a Brisbane would quite happy pay him silly money for a couple of second round picks which we could then bank into our academy kids

Another of the old; "Ted retiring posts".

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That's a great result for us and for him, he's a late developer for obvious reasons but I liked what I saw the other week and I think he can be part of our next generation. I like we've given him the confidence and security of a two year extension

What are the obvious reasons?

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At the start of the thread I predicted that the Swans would only keep one of Alire or X. Richards. They seem to have made their choice.

With Talia and Reid likely to be available for the 2nd half of the year (Talia is now listed at 2-3 weeks), I don't see X. Richards having an opportunity to turn his fortunes around.

The Richards boys are not getting much good news lately.

[Maltopia]

What are the obvious reasons?

re Aliir, he was a basketballer until he was about 16 or so.

[CureTheSane]

re: Rohan - I can see what others are saying. I still think he adds to the team, but if he's not careful he'll be left behind
re: Reid - when White left, at the time I would have preferred to keep him and let Reid go. That likely would have been a mistake, but Reid has never really got to where he should be. The Swans have held him back by playing him down back IMO. Will be interesting to see if he gets a game this year...