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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8166

    Originally posted by Mug Punter
    That run in scary. They are every chance of getting top two, and if they get on a roll they can win it.

    And then the fun will begin......
    Yep with that draw they aren't going to be dropping many games (Without significant injuries of course), and every chance to be top 2. Teams aren't going to fancy that trip to Spotless in the finals (I'd expect the only final that would be moved from there would be if they play us) and they'd be every chance to make the grand final from there. I have nothing against the football they play or the team they are, but how they have got there is going to leave a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths, especially when one takes into account the impact of their introduction on the integrity of the competition (in terms of the impacts of their concessions). But that is all hypothetical till the time that GWS really does make the impact on the league that may happen as early as this year.
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      Originally posted by mcs
      More likely we would just laugh at your pathetic efforts to try and be an internet troll. I think most here wouldn't give two hoots, although I guess you'd be excited to actually go to an AFL game live this season....
      I forgot about you. Where you been?

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      • chalbilto
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2007
        • 1139

        Originally posted by barry
        Oh how i would love GWS to host swans in a final at ANZ.

        This board would go into meltdown. Mugs head would explode.

        Lols
        Barry, Barry, Barry the Swans supporters don't want their team viz; Sydney Swans, to be forced to play "their" home fixtures at ANZ but if they have to play there as an away team then obviously they will play there.
        Seriously Barry, I try to ignore your trolling posts for they really don't deserve the courtesy of a reply. Sometimes you make some quite sensible posts but when you get on your hobby horses you are really purile and tiresome. I have no animosity towards you but give the trolling up and I am sure that you will earn respect.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          Originally posted by chalbilto
          Barry, Barry, Barry the Swans supporters don't want their team viz; Sydney Swans, to be forced to play "their" home fixtures at ANZ but if they have to play there as an away team then obviously they will play there.
          Seriously Barry, I try to ignore your trolling posts for they really don't deserve the courtesy of a reply. Sometimes you make some quite sensible posts but when you get on your hobby horses you are really purile and tiresome. I have no animosity towards you but give the trolling up and I am sure that you will earn respect.
          Its like some on here have an ANZ word filter that seems them into a mild panic.

          FWIW, I very much doubt ANZ will be used, but the irony is delicious as bruce would say.

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            Originally posted by Nico
            Mills into the midfield anyone? Obvious move to me.
            Definitely. We need to get Newman to take his spot down back so Mills can move into the midfield. It seems a logical move since we need a Malceski type (which Newman seems to be) in our defensive 6. It would also be nice to free up Rampe a bit, but he's tied down doing serious 1 on 1 defending. Mills is a natural midfielder. Let's do it now.

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            • Industrial Fan
              Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
              • Aug 2006
              • 3318

              Originally posted by barry
              Its like some on here have an ANZ word filter that seems them into a mild panic.

              FWIW, I very much doubt ANZ will be used, but the irony is delicious as bruce would say.

              Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk
              about as much irony as the alanis morrisette song Barry. Chalabito is spot on. Just don't want our home final played out there to our disadvantage. Gws can play theirs wherever they want.

              Gws win has put some wind in your sails obviously.
              He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                Oops, I thought this was the trade/draft thread but I must be wrong as it appears to be the positional moves on field and venue for finals thread, silly me ........

                Be nice if we could keep general chat on other appropriate threads and keep this thread for the more important non trade/draft hypotheticals, thanks

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  GWS shouldn't have cap problems next year as Cam McCarthy appears gone and they will almost certainly trade out in demand Tomlinson who will want to move for real senior opportunities.

                  Could be a few more traded out and replaced with inexpensive draftees, all from the Riverina of course!

                  Marchbank is very much a required player at GWS, highly unlikely he'll be going anywhere but we could well be in the market for a good established KPD.

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    Originally posted by 707
                    Oops, I thought this was the trade/draft thread but I must be wrong as it appears to be the positional moves on field and venue for finals thread, silly me ........

                    Be nice if we could keep general chat on other appropriate threads and keep this thread for the more important non trade/draft hypotheticals, thanks
                    You're perfectly suited to be a moderator
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • penga
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2601

                      You'll have to excuse me if this has already been discussed in this thread, as I haven't been keeping completely abreast of the entire discussion on here, but here's my thoughts..

                      "Small Ball"

                      The emergence of the Golden State Warriors, and their small ball style that has revolutionised the NBA, has made me think how that could transpire into the AFL. Furthermore, you only have to look at Harry Marsh's efforts on Cameron vs Buddy on Davis; albeit as a one off game comparison. Delivery is the key for key forwards, and if the mids are being let off the leash through the middle, I don't care if you're Davis, SOS, Reg, or McGlynn, you can't stop lace out delivery. So do we actually need a big, bulking backman? Added to that, third up marking contests, which we got killed by on the weekend, is the norm for defense these days, anyway. As a slightly stupid comparison, would you prefer a back six with Reg clones, or Rampe clones? Rampe everyday, as much as I love Reg. The advantage of having ball users coming out of the back, who may occasionally get monstered, would weigh up much better than a bunch of monsters who can't use the ball. Marsh is 189cm, as tall as Mal Michael and Craig Bolton, and I'm not saying he is the future of our backline, but perhaps we're not as in dire need of a big backman as we think. I hold out hope for Tahlia, and I'd love to see Reid, first of all get over his injuries, sagging off his man to win every high ball. The days of the 195cm Jeff White type ruckman is over, considering Patrick Cripps is the same height, but a resting ruckman in the forward line, with Rampe on him, creates a favourable mismatch.. to us.
                      C'mon Chels!

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                      • WauchopeAnalyst
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 834

                        Going forward, George Hewett appears to be, or will be, our most complete footballer in terms of skills, decision making, movement.

                        His left foot, or non-dominant foot, spear to Heeney was exquisite compared to most of our bomb kicking, his decision making is great, due partly to his movement and therefore creating more time to evaluate his options and also knowing where and when to be there. His goal kicking looks very fluid and again once settled looks very solid in his mechanics.

                        If he gets about 20 games this year could prepare him for a massive career for him and will built his motor every off season. Where is his contract situation?

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                        • Triple B
                          Formerly 'BBB'
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 6999

                          Originally posted by WauchopeAnalyst
                          Where is his contract situation?
                          He signed an extension about a month ago. There'll be a link somewhere...
                          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                          • WauchopeAnalyst
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 834

                            wooohooooo around 1 June, I missed it badly.

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                            • Mug Punter
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3325

                              I know this may be a bit off thread...

                              On the Couch were looking at GWS and the talk was their surplus of talent. The context was whether Essendon would trade their number 1 pick and the general consensus was they needed an immediate injection of talent and could not wait two to three years, especially as the draft, whilst of a good standard, does not have a standout with 1-8 pretty even apparently.

                              They talked of the Bombers trading pick 1 for a couple of the GWS players and when they listed their potential surplus players it was just incredible - Tomlinson, Hoskin-Elliot, Stewart, Marchbank and Steele just to name a few. It will be interesting to see how it pans out - I could see GWS trading players for an extra first rounder which will give them four first rounders which is really another massive recruitment wave - it's just how they do it, maybe Pick 1 isn't that prized this year but I can't see them having less than four first rounders. Then again maybe they'll trade for future picks. IMO both Hoskin-Elliot and Tomlinson are worth first round picks so I reckon either of them and a sweetener like a Jack Steele would have to be very tempting for Woosha, especially if he could somehow get a first rounder thrown in as well from GWS by trading future picks and maybe their second rounder for points.

                              And that is just good list management (non GWS bashing from me here)

                              Remember they still need to offload a couple of players off their list and they may need to shed some cap space. There's definitely some talent there to be cherry picked but I just can't see us doing any business there. I think we'll just play the straight bat this year and that we'll be needs based recruiting again with a KPD coming in via some trade

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                              • Mug Punter
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 3325

                                Originally posted by penga
                                You'll have to excuse me if this has already been discussed in this thread, as I haven't been keeping completely abreast of the entire discussion on here, but here's my thoughts..

                                "Small Ball"

                                The emergence of the Golden State Warriors, and their small ball style that has revolutionised the NBA, has made me think how that could transpire into the AFL. Furthermore, you only have to look at Harry Marsh's efforts on Cameron vs Buddy on Davis; albeit as a one off game comparison. Delivery is the key for key forwards, and if the mids are being let off the leash through the middle, I don't care if you're Davis, SOS, Reg, or McGlynn, you can't stop lace out delivery. So do we actually need a big, bulking backman? Added to that, third up marking contests, which we got killed by on the weekend, is the norm for defense these days, anyway. As a slightly stupid comparison, would you prefer a back six with Reg clones, or Rampe clones? Rampe everyday, as much as I love Reg. The advantage of having ball users coming out of the back, who may occasionally get monstered, would weigh up much better than a bunch of monsters who can't use the ball. Marsh is 189cm, as tall as Mal Michael and Craig Bolton, and I'm not saying he is the future of our backline, but perhaps we're not as in dire need of a big backman as we think. I hold out hope for Tahlia, and I'd love to see Reid, first of all get over his injuries, sagging off his man to win every high ball. The days of the 195cm Jeff White type ruckman is over, considering Patrick Cripps is the same height, but a resting ruckman in the forward line, with Rampe on him, creates a favourable mismatch.. to us.
                                Not across the basketball analogy but I have been mightily impressed with the jobs Rampe (and Laidler to a lesser extent) has been doing this year and Marsh and Aliir have also looked much better than I thought they would. I still think we'll go for a defender at year end, if only because it is the only area of our squad that has a semblance of weakness about it, but I don't feel the same degree of concern about our defence as I did at the start of the season.

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