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  • Matimbo
    Warming the Bench
    • Apr 2009
    • 334

    #76
    Originally posted by liz
    If we were to move every player out of our defence who makes the occasional (or more than occasional) clanger, we would literally have no defenders. For all the great work they do, Smith, Rampe, Reg, Ted and Laidler are all guilty of some really awful disposals at times.
    Yes, I agree with your point here Liz. I think the reason I see Mills differently is that Smith, Rampe, etc are all experienced defenders, whereas Mills is not. Just thought a change of role for a bit would be a good thing for him - but not at the expense of overall team balance.
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    • Matimbo
      Warming the Bench
      • Apr 2009
      • 334

      #77
      Originally posted by barry
      McVeigh must be on notice that another poor performance against a good side will not be acceptable.
      McVeigh really provides a lot of on-field direction for players around him. Sometimes its not so obvious on TV but if you're at the game - particularly if close to the fence - you can really notice it. For this alone, he is right at the top of my team list when fit, even if his personal stats look a little down.
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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        #78
        Originally posted by Matimbo
        McVeigh really provides a lot of on-field direction for players around him. Sometimes its not so obvious on TV but if you're at the game - particularly if close to the fence - you can really notice it. For this alone, he is right at the top of my team list when fit, even if his personal stats look a little down.
        I agree. And it is obvious from many comments made by John Longmire that Longmire values McVeigh's on-field (and off-field) leadership very highly.

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        • snajik
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 1115

          #79
          Has it been mentioned that Papley only had 51% game time against the Crows. Not sure how that compares with his earlier games but doesn't sound like a lot of time in which to shine. Perhaps they couldn't get the right match ups. I'd rather he had another crack at it, particularly on the SCG. Weaker opposition this weekend. I'm thinking we'll win fairly comfortably.
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          • Mug Punter
            On the Rookie List
            • Nov 2009
            • 3325

            #80
            I actually would make no changes at all. Towers needs a run to make or break his career, sure we cannot carry games like last week long term but I think confidence is his issue and faith and loyalty (to a point) is what he needs. Plus a giant sized rocket up his clacker at about 1.20pm on Saturday.....

            What would we be saying if we had won? Because we lost a 50/50 match by one kick really and we had the rub of the green go against us. It was actually a pretty solid effort and Towers is the only one who deserves dropping but I think we need to throw down the gauntlet to him to prove he is a senior footballer for this club.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              #81
              Originally posted by Mug Punter
              I actually would make no changes at all. Towers needs a run to make or break his career, sure we cannot carry games like last week long term but I think confidence is his issue and faith and loyalty (to a point) is what he needs. Plus a giant sized rocket up his clacker at about 1.20pm on Saturday.....

              What would we be saying if we had won?
              Because we lost a 50/50 match by one kick really and we had the rub of the green go against us. It was actually a pretty solid effort and Towers is the only one who deserves dropping but I think we need to throw down the gauntlet to him to prove he is a senior footballer for this club.
              Gary Rohan comes off the LTIL after this game, so Papley will be dropped next week anyway. I don't think we will be that quick to reinstate him to the senior list in place of AJ, but rather wait to see what our specific needs are on a week by week basis. For example, we may have a need for a halfback due to injury, and we have 3 of them on our rookie list, including Marsh and Newman, who would have a reasonable case for senior upgrade. We all agree that Papley has done well, but his value needs to be measured against others available for selection. McGlynn makes it a bit hard for Papley to hold his spot at this point in time. I doubt that going back to the reserves will hurt his long term chances at all. In fact, I see him as a replacement for McGlynn, even perhaps later this year.

              I have suggested Sinclair, Jones and Hewett come in for Nanka, Papley and Towers this week. I don't think the result of the Adelaide game influenced my opinion, but rather who I think will give better value in this very important game against a tough opponent. I'm a big supporter of developing players by selecting suitable games for them to appear during the year. I know many others disagree and say we should always select our best 22. For this week though, I think we should select our best 22. I don't expect everyone to agree with my suggested changes, but we each have our opinions on what various players have to offer, which is fair enough.

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              • Maltopia
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2016
                • 1556

                #82
                Hey Ludwig, good post there.

                I agree with most of your post, except think that three changes seems a lot for a team that only just lost with some crappy calls against us at crucial times (e.g., push in the back by Betts). With WC strong running/pace, I'd be inclined to give Towers another chance due to his speed and endurance. If he fails again, then Brisbane in the next round would be a good opportunity to blood Aliir or Abe Davis?

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  #83
                  The only change I'd make is send Nanka back to the ressies, even though he had a decent game against the Crows, simply because Callum the Large is the best partner for Tippo.

                  I agree with others that it's make or break season for Towers and we need to back him in with some tough love to get the most from him. Jones and Hewett have earned their place and I expect will be back in soon.
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • longmile
                    Crumber
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 3362

                    #84
                    I'd really like to see Rose have a run but maybe this isn't the game. Hoping he gets a run against the Lions

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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      ... In fact, I see him as a replacement for McGlynn, even perhaps later this year ...
                      Due to the way Mighty Mouse plays he will probably get injured again (not that I wish that on anyone) and Smear will get another go.
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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #86
                        It's not make it break season for towers. Who is the alternative ?. We won't be chasing a medium forward next trade period, well be after key defenders.

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          #87
                          Originally posted by barry
                          It's not make or break season for Towers. Who is the alternative? We won't be chasing a medium forward next trade period, we'll be after key defenders.
                          Barry, I'm a bit puzzled about your comment. The alternative is probably Gary Rohan. And I agree with the need for key defenders.

                          I should have added in my earlier post that we should play Tom Mitchell in the centre as much as possible, not as much forward as he was last Saturday. He's more use in the scrimmage than the open spaces, despite the improvement in his goalkicking.
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • aardvark
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5685

                            #88
                            Originally posted by barry
                            It's not make it break season for towers. Who is the alternative ?. We won't be chasing a medium forward next trade period, well be after key defenders.
                            Contract is finished at the end of this year. More likely he'll look for a club that offers him a long contract and a chance of a regular game.

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                            • ugg
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                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15963

                              #89
                              Originally posted by barry
                              It's not make it break season for towers. Who is the alternative ?. We won't be chasing a medium forward next trade period, well be after key defenders.
                              Dawson and/or Davis could play that 3rd medium/tall forward role quite well.
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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                #90
                                Originally posted by ugg
                                Dawson and/or Davis could play that 3rd medium/tall forward role quite well.
                                Lol. Proven finals performer vs untried rookies.
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