Rnd 10 Match Day Thread. Sydney V North Melb. SCG. 7.50 pm.

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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Originally posted by 09183305
    According to Barry logic, he could have had 37 disposals at 95% efficiency, 8 tackles, kicked 5.1, is named Jarad McVeigh so he needs dropping or delisting
    Stupid comment. As if mchack ever had 37 touches at 95%

    Lol

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    • 0918330512
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2011
      • 1654

      Originally posted by barry
      Stupid comment. As if mchack ever had 37 touches at 95%

      Lol
      Fair enough to Barry. Although it''s probably fortunate I don't write "stupid comment" in reply to every very stupid comment you write about Macca ... most threads you post on would rival the length of Tippett's thread!

      LoL

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      • giant
        Veterans List
        • Mar 2005
        • 4731

        Originally posted by barry
        Ok, i watched the first half again and while mcveigh had some costly clangers that directly led to norf goals, he was also covering boomer who also was quiet. So lets call it a pass.

        But according to RWO logic he needs resting.
        He was certainly on Thomas for some of the time that he was running amok. Q1 was not great for McV but he improved throughout the night (thank goodness). As I noted last week, he was just about the best ball user in the team, he now regularly misses targets. Still important for us though.

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        • Dosser
          Just wild about Harry
          • Mar 2011
          • 1833

          Originally posted by giant
          He was certainly on Thomas for some of the time that he was running amok. Q1 was not great for McV but he improved throughout the night (thank goodness). As I noted last week, he was just about the best ball user in the team, he now regularly misses targets. Still important for us though.
          I watched the game for the first time last night and took particular interest in McVeigh because of this thread. By the end of the match I couldn't think of anyone in the magoos who would have done a better job. He is becoming underrated on here.

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          • Triple B
            Formerly 'BBB'
            • Feb 2003
            • 6999

            From observations at the ground, McVeigh was awful in the 1st quarter and a half, goals not withstanding. He was caught out multiple times in defence and was outpaced by Petrie in one play. He certainly improved as the night went on. Watching the replay his defensive lapses in the first half were not as noticeable on TV, probably because he was not in screen shot when he looked like he was tagging Peter Brady....
            Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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            • neilfws
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2009
              • 1827

              Originally posted by aardvark
              How about a graph which shows how many "Harrys" have played at each club? and if you have time, What are the top ten first names of AFL/VFL players of all time?
              I guess I can indulge myself now that the game chat has died down a bit.

              Harrys per club (not counting Harrisons). Well, by absolute number, Saint Kilda win. But really, we need to correct for total number of players (far more have played for the Saints than for the Suns, for example). So if we calculate Harrys per 1000 players for a club, Carlton win. Good to see that the Hawks "Harry index" is abysmal.

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              And the top 10 first names: Harry just scrapes in at number 10.

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              Click graphs for larger versions.

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              • O'Reilly Boy
                Warming the Bench
                • Feb 2014
                • 474

                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                last one i promise as i think it is a really important measure on an outside player near a contest

                ......

                a great example of an outside player near a contest is the next few minutes after the Lindsay thomas first goal at the beginning of the 1st qtr

                at the centre bounce

                Llloyd is on the wing next to Gibson

                North win the contest and drive it forward and quick as a flash Lloyd leaves Gibson......has 15 metres on him already to race to where the ball is dropping to the pack........tick to Lloyd in reading this play better then Gibson and tick he has spread harder then Gibson and tick he has made an extra number around the contest

                Lloyd gets within a couple of metres of the contest and he is genuinely bouncing around.......almost timid?.....almost hesitant?......maybe?........or is he ready to spread hard in a millisecond ?

                Hannes who has extracted the ball from the pack and lloyd has opened his body up to receive the ball while facing forward which is another tick.......Hannes doesn't quite get the ball to him........ ball spills back to Parker and Parkers get taken high....free kick parker

                Lloyd has already wrapped around to the boundary a good 30m as he is sprinting forward with no Gibson to be seen two ticks !!!...........lloyd is now 40 from where he was last with Hannes and runs off the mark taken by Hewett to out number the Kangas BUT most importantly to allow a fast play forward to Heeney who grabs the ball from the contest and plays on to Buddy........tick, tick, tick boom !

                but yes i would agree Lloyds body language appeared a little jumpy and hesitant back at the contest where Hannes tried to get him the ball ...........but for all the right reasons as he was the link to all this play and he had to keep moving ...........quite unbelievable actually when you watch lloyd go.........his vision is quite amazing

                the 30 seconds either side of Parkers free kick we have had lloyd do about 9 things right and Gibson nil..... his opposite number....... in an outside role .......yet if we focussed on Lloyd not diving in with Hannes to win the ball we might not appreciated all the other running, linking, outnumbering he did in that 60 seconds or so !!!!

                Lloyd 9 ticks and Gibson ZERO !!
                Thank you so much for this extraordinary analysis. It's the best piece of writing about the technical side of this sport I have ever seen (and my job is in the academic study of human movement). This is just exemplary, and, with your permission, I'd like to use it for teaching.

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                • AnnieH
                  RWOs Black Sheep
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11332

                  Wow. Again, wasn't expecting that.
                  Another week of being happy!!!
                  Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                  Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                  • aardvark
                    Veterans List
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 5685

                    Originally posted by neilfws
                    I guess I can indulge myself now that the game chat has died down a bit.

                    Harrys per club (not counting Harrisons). Well, by absolute number, Saint Kilda win. But really, we need to correct for total number of players (far more have played for the Saints than for the Suns, for example). So if we calculate Harrys per 1000 players for a club, Carlton win. Good to see that the Hawks "Harry index" is abysmal.

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                    And the top 10 first names: Harry just scrapes in at number 10.

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                    Click graphs for larger versions.
                    Is it fair to say Harry has been more of an upper class name seeing as how Carlton have the most and Hawthorn the least? Not sure I would have picked Frank as being in the top 10.

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Great work. I expect Jack to pull further ahead as its very popular in the next generation of kids.

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                      • Bloods05
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1641

                        Originally posted by aardvark
                        Is it fair to say Harry has been more of an upper class name seeing as how Carlton have the most and Hawthorn the least? Not sure I would have picked Frank as being in the top 10.
                        Hawthorn is way more upper-class than Carlton.

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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          Originally posted by Bloods05
                          Hawthorn is way more upper-class than Carlton.
                          These days you're probably right. When I was a boy (50 yrs ago) Hawthorn was a dump.

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                          • Sandrevan
                            Warming the Bench
                            • May 2016
                            • 355

                            There has been a lot of talk about Lloyds game. At the time I thought he was pretty good. On the TV you only see what part of what each player does. I think of Lloyd at the link man. His positional play is good and he has great foot skills. His only real mistake of the game was kicking the ball into the man on the mark - but we all know about that one. I bet he will never do that again.
                            Loving the way George Hewett is developing - so composed. His left foot kick to Heeny in the goal square was fantastic.

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                            • Industrial Fan
                              Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3318

                              Big fan of hewett, he definitely does have a case of the Selwood shake though. Always puts himself in a spot to draw high contact.
                              He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                              • Mug Punter
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 3325

                                Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                                Big fan of hewett, he definitely does have a case of the Selwood shake though. Always puts himself in a spot to draw high contact.
                                I'd like that to be coached out of his game and I trust Horse and the team to do exactly that.

                                He did a lot of little things on Friday that largely went unnoticed but he's adapted to senior footy really well and he'll get better

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