(Not so) sweet caroline

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  • stevoswan
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2014
    • 8573

    Gee, 'Sweet Caroline' is popular at sporting events......and how did it all start? This is from the link in neilfws's post above;

    It?s stiff to pin responsibility for all this on any one individual but the hard truth is that there?s a 21-year-old woman in New England with a lot to answer for. She?s called Caroline and when she was born, in 1997, a friend of her parents, Amy Tobey, who had a job picking the music they play when the Red Sox are at Fenway Park, decided to celebrate with Neil Diamond?s Sweet Caroline. The Red Sox won. Tobey was superstitious, so started to play it again every now and then, in the seventh and ninth innings when the team were winning. Until her new boss decided to make it the Fenway anthem.

    Two decades later they play Sweet Caroline at every game. Not just every game in Boston, understand, but every game everywhere. It?s the track No 1 on Now That?s What I Call Stadium Filler 2018. It?s been a fixture at home games for Penn State, the Pittsburgh Panthers, Castleford Tigers, the Cleveland Cavaliers, Reading FC, Oxford United, the Sydney Swans, Saracens, and dozens of other clubs. It?s become the soundtrack of sportainment. You can hear it at the Australian Open tennis, England?s internationals at Twickenham and T20 finals day.


    I'm thinking it might be here to stay but there may be some hope. From the same article:

    There is an alternative. Last year the commercial team at the New York Knicks NBL basketball team came up with a radical idea. They decided their game against the Golden State Warriors at Madison Square Gardens would be played in silence. No soundtrack, no video. It was such a bold idea they only felt brave enough to do it for the first half.

    The big screens ran the message that ?today?s game will be presented without music, video, or in-game entertainment, so you can experience the game in it?s purest form?.

    And so the half played out to a soundtrack of shuffling, squeaking sneakers, the thump and swish of the ball, the buzz of conversation and the cries and shouts and cheers of the fans. All the noises you heard when you first fell in love with the game.


    Although they don't say if it was more popular with the fans........ I suspect it was.

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    • erica
      Happy and I know it
      • Jan 2008
      • 1247

      Originally posted by ScottH
      The same clowns that enjoy it are the same clowns that start a Mexican wave during the game.
      Ah nope. I'm one of those who enjoy it. It's less than a minute and and lots of us in the Brewongle sing along happily for that short time.
      All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        Originally posted by erica
        Ah nope. I'm one of those who enjoy it. It's less than a minute and and lots of us in the Brewongle sing along happily for that short time.

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        • Sandridge
          Outer wing, Lake Oval
          • Apr 2010
          • 2094

          I actually like the song. But it's the wrong song played at the wrong time for the wrong reasons. It means nothing to our club - it's just there to supposedly engage the crowd and I think it's offensive to Swans supporters that someone thinks that just watching our team isn't enough to entertain us. I have nothing against music at sporting events but it needs to be meaningful and used at the right time. As a Melbourne based Blood, I sometimes go to the MCG to watch non-Swans games. Melbourne successfully uses AC/DC's Hells Bells to get the crowd going before the team enters the arena. Melbourne Victory in the A-League plays "Stand By me" when the team takes the field and virtually the whole crowd stands and sings along. If we could find a "call to arms" song that was relevant to the Swans, I'd be all for using it but playing a song during a break in the game just because it's supposed to be a good singalong/clapalong song is disappointing.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16786

            Originally posted by Sandridge
            just because it's supposed to be a good singalong/clapalong song is disappointing.
            That's what I most hate about it. The singalong/clapalong vibe is completely out of whack with what I'd think most sports fans would be feeling. If people want to singalong/clapalong they're most welcome to do so at the pub on a Friday night.

            A few years ago, at Stadium Australia games, they used to play Viva la Vida on a regular basis - it was either at the first quarter time break or just before the second half resumed (the latter, I think). While this isn't a song with any particular link to the Swans, it at least has a combative and upbeat feel to it. I don't have an issue with them making a thing of a song played just as the second quarter belongs. I just wish they'd find something that isn't so damn corny and out of whack with the mood of a football game.

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            • desredandwhite
              Click!
              • Jan 2003
              • 2498

              My main issue with it is that there's no history, no relevance. They are trying to make it a thing, instead of allowing a thing to develop organically.

              177th Senior AFL Match - Round 4, 2009 - Sydney vs Carlton, SCG. This is obviously out of date. I suppose I'll update it once I could be bothered sitting down with the fixture and working it out....
              Des' Weblog

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              • rojo
                Opti-pessi-misti
                • Mar 2009
                • 1103

                How about Dance of the Cygnets from Swan Lake?

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                • Industrial Fan
                  Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3318

                  The afl played a song with tribal drumming to do the 60 second countdown before finals.

                  The thing is it isn?t that hard to find something that?s suited to the game.
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                  • goswannies
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3052

                    Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                    The afl played a song with tribal drumming to do the 60 second countdown before finals.

                    The thing is it isn?t that hard to find something that?s suited to the game.
                    Anything by early 80s Adam Ant is inundated with tribal drumming & surely better than Sweet Caroline

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                    • CureTheSane
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5032

                      I'd be happy with a new and exciting song.
                      Tradition and history need to be constantly developed.
                      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                      • Bloody Hell
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3085

                        I gotta feeling by The Black Eyed Peas would be a good song. The film clips a bit racy, but there's no swearing and it's a good tune:

                        I gotta feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night
                        That tonight's gonna be a good night
                        That tonight's gonna be a good, good night


                        It's basically 3 verses repeated for 4 minutes.
                        The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                        • Wardy
                          The old Boiler!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 6676

                          ?Up town funk? would be my choice - don?t believe me just watch!! ????????
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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9723

                            I'd be happy with A Boy Named Sue, not sure it really works but it'd make my Dad happy and he probably deserves a choice more than I do (I won't be at every game this year, but he will!).
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • Bloods05
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1641

                              Originally posted by CureTheSane
                              I'd be happy with a new and exciting song.
                              Tradition and history need to be constantly developed.
                              That is a very odd proposition.

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                              • CureTheSane
                                Carpe Noctem
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 5032

                                Originally posted by Bloods05
                                That is a very odd proposition.

                                Why?
                                Because you love the tradition of the old song and want to stay there forever?

                                Changing our name to the Swans was no doubt met with upset when it happened.

                                I know the AFL is widely criticized for chafing rules and changing the game etc, but in the end they are moving with the times and perpetuating the games popularity.
                                Staying current.

                                Obviously the Swans wouldn't just make a new song to replace what we have, but creating a new one is worthwhile.
                                Would solve the Sweet Caroline problem at least
                                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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