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Deledio nominating the Giants? Wow! I'd see if there's anyway at all we can steal something by being part of that deal.
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I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
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I think Pick 46 is about right, you just don't get a god given right to get more than what you drafted the guy at, in fact I'd say it is rare you trade players for higher value. And as Ludwig noted he probably wasn't worth pick 35, we only just missed out on Rory Lobb and I know who I'd prefer now. And he's played 12 games in 3 years, it's not like he is a superstar. Pick 46 for our fourth ruckman.
He's going for better pay and opportunity. What message would have being unreasonable sent, that we treat our players like crap?
This is a good pick. We can leave pick 46 as a marker for a ruckman in the draft and we can then looking at trading up 52 with the Xav deal and then bundle that with Pick 39. The Lions will need to trade back their Pick 22 to allow academy drafting and that is the one I'd be targeting
If we have Picks 14,17,22 and 46 at the ND I'll be very happy
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The release of WHE, Stewart, Steele, Marchbank, Pickett and Ahern will free up some serious money. Some obviously on more than others but I think I read WHE was on $700,000 per year. Sheesh...
Plus the cap will also go up $1,000,000 approx. so I think they'd be fine there
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Anybody hazard a guess as to why the AFL blatantly changed the use of future picks to accommodate Geelong's trade position?
Are these guys @@@@ing serious?Comment
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I wondered the same, I guess they do have a few folks going out as Mug highlighted and even though they've had to leave Patfull on the list for some form of payment I assume he was on a reasonable amount the last couple of years (so even factoring his payment for next year the starting point to find salary cap room for Brett would probably be over $300k).I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his timeComment
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If it is Essendon that are after Xav I'd take an upgrade from 52 to 41 which would give us Picks 41 and 39 worth 858 points which we could then trade in exchange for the Lions pick 22 at 845 points.
Going to be a crazy day tomorrowComment
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Giants are getting richmond to pay delideos contract. Basically selling picks (paying overs) for cap relief. CleverComment
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That clubs are allowed to buy salary cap space via trading draft picks is, IMO, a far bigger distortion of the salary cap concept of creating a level playing field in each individual year than the defunct COLA, which at least was there to address a real imbalance faced by NSW players (ie the actual higher cost of living in Sydney).
The Giants are not the first and won't be the last to do this but it just shows how fuzzy the application of the salary cap is.Comment
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I would be more than happy to trade out Towers and Richards and pick 46 for pick 22 (funnily enough the pick we originally got Towers for) if we could and to into the draft with picks 14, 17, 22, 39 and 52, which would be a good result. Delist Hiscox and we have 8 senior slots open and a lot of list cloggers gone. Nanka wasn't really a list clogger but became excess baggage after we got Sinclair. I would take a 2nd rounder for next year from a bottom 6 club.Comment
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I have a proposal for the AFL to set up a Cap Space Futures Exchange, which would be part of the regular trade period. Clubs can sell cap space for Draft picks or players. There could be an open market or one set to coincide with the Value Points systems. One possibility is to multiply the value points by 50 to get the amount of cap space equivalent for a draft pick. This would make pick 31 equal to $303k of cap space.
This is not a frivolous suggestion as it solves one of the problems with low performing clubs in that they are forced to pay 95% of the salary cap and often find that they have crap players with high salaries just to meet the AFL requirements. This would allow them to pay these players fair value and sell the excess to clubs in the so called premiership window that want to keep their star players who may leave for bigger contracts. This system should accelerate to rebound of lowly clubs to contenders.Comment
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The requirement to pay 95% is crap. During the Neeld years the woeful Melb players were on 95% of what the Hawks stars were getting, it's ludicrous. Too much AFLPA power in setting those types of rules.
I like the exchange cap $ for draft picks, brilliant idea Ludwig, get it to the AFL pronto!Comment
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A massive 6 hours tomorrow, there will be some very clever player and pick swaps put together, we may still be a player with bundling later picks for an upgrade. Who knows maybe X will go despite lack of interest and even a fringie or two in the dying hours OR we have been positioning for a bold move by clearing cap space!Comment
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