2016 trading and drafting (merged thread)

[barracuda]

agreed..but we said the same of the buddy deal....and really a midfielder like JOM dont come along often and i trust our club medicos to make the best judgement call on that..There have been a few GC players like JOM and swallow not happy with there medical treatment from there injuries....

Actually I think they do come along quite often; Cripps, Bont etc

[iigrover]

I'm not sure how you can conclude WB are the winner using the draft points value.

Because I'm terrible at maths ;-)

[barracuda]

I can't see how it would work unless they send us a player, unfortunately. Would Sicily be a good replacement for X?

Better player than X I reckon

[Ludwig]

I feel we are already down on the Mitchell and Narkervis trades and find ourselves with at least 1 draft pick too many. If we trade 14 & 17 to Hawthorn for pick 10 I would sack Tom Harley on the spot. Picks 14 and 17 are very well placed for what we need. Pick 10 does nothing for us. What we need to do is to use Richards, Towers and our later picks to get another pick in the 20s or a 2nd rounder next year.

[707]

Moving from 14 to 10 and losing 17? The other part of the deal needs to be significant to do this because nothing standout at 10 that isn't similar at 14 and good players at 17.

We may be hatching something but can't see what it is unless Hawks can get AFL to let them trade next years second rounder - watch this space, must be bloody hectic at the trade centre!

[Dosser]

Graham Wright in an interview this morning said they weren't trading any players.

They have already giving their first round pick next year to St Kilda.

At this last stage it would be very surprising that a player was included.

Just can't see how we are winning this year???

I dont think we have to "win" at the trade table - we just have to get what we want.

[707]

So it could be Mitchell and pick 17 for pick 10 & steak knives - surely not!

[gossipcom]

Moving from 14 to 10 and losing 17? The other part of the deal needs to be significant to do this because nothing standout at 10 that isn't similar at 14 and good players at 17.

We may be hatching something but can't see what it is unless Hawks can get AFL to let them trade next years second rounder - watch this space, must be bloody hectic at the trade centre!

Well they did state this morning on Twitter they would be talking to all the clubs - so anything is in possible!

[aardvark]

So it could be Mitchell and pick 17 for pick 10 & steak knives - surely not!

14 & 17 for 10 and Cyril?

[Billericay]

14 & 17 for 10 and Cyril?

Hawks say they won't trade any players.
Only way I can see this working is if Hawks send us their pick 10, we sent our pick 14 and a whole bunch of lower picks to GCS, Hawks send pick 48 to GCS. That way we advance our pick 14 and help GCS with their academy selections, and Hawks give GCS more than they offered yesterday

[RogueSwan]

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What the differences between 10 and 14 & 17???

Two good players vs one!
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• Picks ____10____________________14____________________17 __________
• 2015 Harry McKay (CAR)______ Eric Hipwood (BRI)_______ Tom Doedee (ADL)
• 2014 Nakia Cockatoo (GEE)____ Jake Lever (ADL)_________ Kyle Langford (ESS)
• 2013 Nathan Freeman (COL)___ Cam McCarthy (GWS)_____ Michael Apeness (FRE)
• 2012 Joe Danniher (ESS)______ Aidan Corr (GWS)________ Josh Simpson (FRE)
• 2011 Liam Sumner (GWS)_____ Devon Smith (GWS)______ Clay Smith (DOGS)
• 2010 Daniel Gorringe (SUNS)___Brodie Smith (ADL)_______ Shaun Atley (ROOS)
• 2009 Jake Melksham (ESS)____ Lewis Jetta (SYD)_________ Daniel Menzel (GEE)
• 2008 Phil Davis (GWS)________ Ayce Cordy (DOGS)_______ Sam Blease (MEL)
• 2007 Patrick Dangerfield (ADL)_ Jack Grimes (MLB)________ Harry Taylor (GEE)
• 2006 Nathan Brown (COL)____ James Sellar (ADL)________ Shaun Hampson (CARL)

The best pick IMO, so far, in bold
Looking at the last ten years IMO pick 10 has not been significantly better than 14 & 17 combined except for 2006-2008.

This obviously doesn't take into account accademy, father/son and priority picks or more significantly picks 11-13 which could have been taken with pick 10.
In 2010 you could have gotten Tom Lynch (GCS) with #11. In 2011 #11 was Toby Greene, but probably wouldn't have passed the no dickheads test. #13 in 2013 would have allowed a Paddy Cripps as a long term replacement for Joey?

It could just be that the Swans have a very particular target this year and really don't want take a chance that that draftee will fall through to 14?

[Billericay]

It could just be that the Swans have a very particular target this year and really don't want take a chance that that draftee will fall through to 14?

I think that's what it is, but they still shouldn't be giving up 14 and 17 for 10

[WauchopeAnalyst]

X might just walk away and play VFL!!!!

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[Cosmic Wizard]

It could just be that the Swans have a very particular target this year and really don't want take a chance that that draftee will fall through to 14?

Thanks for the list; truly great work.

Just one problem; if we are targeting a certain player there is the risk that he will go before #10.

This is not like we have pick 5 or 7; too high risk for me; especially if said player get injured.

[mattybloods]

X might just walk away and play VFL!!!!

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If he does then something must be going on with him outside of footy. Sad if he can't find a home, I hope he stays