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  • Meg
    Go Swannies!
    Site Admin
    • Aug 2011
    • 4828

    Originally posted by Mr Magoo
    ...... albeit Nankervis was not exactly being lauded by Swans supporters in the way that we all now retrospectively see such a "mistake".
    Indeed! I can remember coming on this site to defend Nankervis from RWO attacks in his earlier years with the Swans.

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      If we finish just one place ahead of the Pies next year we've advanced our pick at least 19 places in a super draft. this could end up as much as 30+ places upgrade.

      I'm stunned, Pies must really rate Murray, stunned particularly when you see some of the deals that are going down right now.

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      • Mr Magoo
        Senior Player
        • May 2008
        • 1255

        Originally posted by 707
        If we finish just one place ahead of the Pies next year we've advanced our pick at least 19 places in a super draft. this could end up as much as 30+ places upgrade.

        I'm stunned, Pies must really rate Murray, stunned particularly when you see some of the deals that are going down right now.
        Maybe Buckleys one of those people that doesnt do anything moderately. Criticise him for taking old players from other clubs so instead he goes for young completely untried ones instead

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Originally posted by 707
          If we finish just one place ahead of the Pies next year we've advanced our pick at least 19 places in a super draft. this could end up as much as 30+ places upgrade.

          I'm stunned, Pies must really rate Murray, stunned particularly when you see some of the deals that are going down right now.
          It can?t be any worse than the Mayne trade

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
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            • Jan 2003
            • 15963

            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            It can?t be any worse than the Mayne trade
            Mayne was a free agent signing, so didn't cost anything at the trade table. That millstone of a 4-year $2m contract though on the other hand...
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            • Ludwig
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              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              In an earlier post I said I would be happy to trade Murray for a 13 place upgrade from pick 51 to pick 38. Based on reasonable projections for next year, this deal looks so much better and well beyond what we would expect for a rookie who hasn't played a game.

              I hope we can trade Robinson for an upgrade in picks in these final minutes of trading.

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                Pretty obvious now that Geelong got pick 19 for Motlop in an agreement with the AFL that it would go to GC in the Ablett deal. Another AFL orchestrated outcome.

                In a surprise, Geelong gave away Darcy Lang, who went in 2013 draft just after we took Jones, for virtually nothing. It makes Sam Murray look more valuable than Lang by some considerable margin. We can't be that good traders. I has to be Collingwood's incompetence.

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                • Auntie.Gerald
                  Veterans List
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6474

                  Buckley desperate
                  "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16742

                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    Pretty obvious now that Geelong got pick 19 for Motlop in an agreement with the AFL that it would go to GC in the Ablett deal. Another AFL orchestrated outcome.

                    In a surprise, Geelong gave away Darcy Lang, who went in 2013 draft just after we took Jones, for virtually nothing. It makes Sam Murray look more valuable than Lang by some considerable margin. We can't be that good traders. I has to be Collingwood's incompetence.
                    That original Lang pick by Geelong was always a little odd. They had their hearts set on Jones, to the extent that they'd promised Jones they'd take him (he published as much on his social media site of choice). They were throw off kilter by the Swans taking him the pick before and named Lang almost straight away, but the suggestion at the time was that he (Lang) would still probably be on the table at their next pick.

                    Lang's been an OK player and it is weird that they've given him away for so little.

                    Almost as weird as Collingwood upgrading our third round pick next year to their second round pick. Hard to believe they wanted him that much. As an out-of-contract rookie, Murray could just have declined the Swans offer of a new contract. I don't think he'd have been eligible as a free agent but he could have put himself in the PSD where, I imagine, he'd easily have gotten to the Pies.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16742

                      There are some staggering trades happening in the last frenzied half hour. Gold Coast have just stumped up pick 2 for Lachie Weller...

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                      • ugg
                        Can you feel it?
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15963

                        I thought Charlie Cameron for pick 12 would go down as the worst trade of the year, but it was pipped at the post by Weller for 2.

                        Cameron is the classic solid player in a strong team, put him in Brisbane's lineup and I think he will struggle to have the same sort of impact.

                        Weller for 2, well, it's going to take me some time before I can find any words for that.
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                        • caj23
                          Senior Player
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 2462

                          Originally posted by ugg
                          I thought Charlie Cameron for pick 12 would go down as the worst trade of the year, but it was pipped at the post by Weller for 2.

                          Cameron is the classic solid player in a strong team, put him in Brisbane's lineup and I think he will struggle to have the same sort of impact.

                          Weller for 2, well, it's going to take me some time before I can find any words for that.
                          Yep both well over trade value, but I think it shows how bad a state the Queensland clubs are in.

                          They get bent over on incoming as well as outgoing players

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                          • rb4x
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 968

                            GC give away Ablett, Saad and Matera for Weller, Wigg and Young and additionally are screwed with the pick exchanges. I think they lost on both counts. I can't see Dew being too happy with their trading.

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                            • Billericay
                              Regular in the Side
                              • May 2013
                              • 712

                              No trade for Robbo though

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                              • Swansongster
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1264

                                Originally posted by caj23
                                Yep both well over trade value, but I think it shows how bad a state the Queensland clubs are in.

                                They get bent over on incoming as well as outgoing players
                                I was thinking the same thing. Not sure the AFL is serious about the Queensland market if they continue to let the Lions and Suns struggle to attract/retain players.

                                Not sure what they should do but they have to do something.

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