2017 trading, drafting, list management

[Billericay]

With the proviso that this is coming from SEN, rumour this morning of Steve Johnson coming to the Swans as a coach. Thoughts?

Swans to add star to coaching ranks?

Breakfast co-host Garry Lyon hinted Johnson?s coaching career could kick off with cross-town rival Sydney. ?I heard that maybe the Sydney Swans are great fans of his footy mind and Tom Harley will be well aware of that,? he said.

[Industrial Fan]

Difficult to separate the coach from the player in this instance but quite possibly a shrewd choice if true.

We may be losing an assistant to another club at the end of the year and fresh ideas are often good

[S.S. Bleeder]

With the proviso that this is coming from SEN, rumour this morning of Steve Johnson coming to the Swans as a coach. Thoughts?

Swans to add star to coaching ranks?

Breakfast co-host Garry Lyon hinted Johnson?s coaching career could kick off with cross-town rival Sydney. ?I heard that maybe the Sydney Swans are great fans of his footy mind and Tom Harley will be well aware of that,? he said.

I think we really do need some new blood in our coaching stock and he'd be great. Might add a little bit of *(&^*(&^ to our forwards :-)

[dimelb]

Johnson - great player but still a dickhead. Shirley we can do better.

[Billericay]

I think we really do need some new blood in our coaching stock and he'd be great. Might add a little bit of *(&^*(&^ to our forwards :-)

I think Papley has quite a lot of mongrel already

[ugg]

Johnson - great player but still a dickhead. Shirley we can do better.

On the latest Talking Footy podcast Tom Harley is the guest. In the interview he talks a little about Johnson's indiscretions in the past but also how he was one of the trainers at the club

Having said all that I'm a little confused as I thought part of the SJ to GWS deal was that he would take up a coaching role with them after retirement from playing

[liz]

Having said all that I'm a little confused as I thought part of the SJ to GWS deal was that he would take up a coaching role with them after retirement from playing

Yeah, I thought that was the deal. Johnson moving to Sydney would be a bit like Sam Mitchell joining the Freo coaching panel for next season.

[Markwebbos]

Yeah, I thought that was the deal. Johnson moving to Sydney would be a bit like Sam Mitchell joining the Freo coaching panel for next season.

Or Jarrad McVeigh joining the Giants next year.

[dimelb]

Or Jarrad McVeigh joining the Giants next year.

Wash your mouth out!

[liz]

Or Jarrad McVeigh joining the Giants next year.

Not really the same. Mitchell we know was lured to West Coast to kick start a post-retirement coaching career. I don't think Johnson's situation was quite as clearly stated but it was a reasonable presumption to be made. A retired player (eg McVeigh) going to another club isn't really the same thing.

[KTigers]

We could do worse than having Jarrad AND Steve J as part of our coaching ranks next year.... they both know their stuff.
But you'd expect them to both stay with their current teams.

[RichardLong]

With the proviso that this is coming from SEN, rumour this morning of Steve Johnson coming to the Swans as a coach. Thoughts?

Swans to add star to coaching ranks?

Breakfast co-host Garry Lyon hinted Johnson?s coaching career could kick off with cross-town rival Sydney. ?I heard that maybe the Sydney Swans are great fans of his footy mind and Tom Harley will be well aware of that,? he said.

Apparently he plays alot of Golf with Macca and some of the other Sydney boys so wouldn't surprise me!

[Mug Punter]

I know this is bad but I'd quite like Carlton to get first pick in the PSD and get Kelly for nothing from GWS

[bloodspirit]

1. I agree fresh blood in the coaching ranks is a good idea but I'm not partial to Stevie J coming to the Swans and I think we can do better. However, the Harley connection makes me a tad nervous. I guess ultimately, as usual, I trust the club to make the right decisions. Certainly Stevie J has been a marvellous and talented player and I would have liked him even more if he had played for us.

2. It is easier to see Macca going to coach at the Giants, particularly if we are not willing to give him a job. I don't especially think we should give him a job (assuming he retires and wants a job in coaching) because, as I say, I think we are better served by fresh blood. We could hope for him to develop elsewhere under other coaches and return to us down the track the better for it, like Kirky going to Freo under Lyon. The Giants on the other hand have done some canny recruiting from Lenny Hayes to Nick Maxwell and even (in a non-coaching role) Emma Quayle. So I can see them being interested in Macca. And for Macca it has the benefit of him not having to relocate interstate.

3. Some people have continued to raise the possibility of Tippett being traded elsewhere. I can't see that happening. Afl.com.au has confirmed what we thought we knew (even though I don't think it was ever announced on sydneyswans.com.au): that Tippett's contract has been extended until 2020. My understanding was that he agreed to take a substantial cut to his pay in order to extend his contract. In these circumstances it would be odd for us to trade him. More to the point, we CAN'T trade him without his consent and why would he have entered an agreement for lower pay with us if he didn't want to stay? I can't see him going anywhere. For better or worse, for another 3 seasons after this one, he's ours. If he can stay injury-free and play to his potential, we'll be doing very well. (I know it's a big IF.) This also means, along with Reid, we have some depth in the KPF position where we're a little thin while we wait for the next generation to arrive (be they Pink, Blakey, Cameron or whoever). I'm not expecting Maibaum to be the answer in our front half. But stranger things have happened. I like the fact that, despite his wage, we're not feeling compelled to play Tippett in the senior team unless his form warrants it. Still, you would think that it creates some pressure for us to play him as an extra tall in the medium term if not the short term: i.e. Naismith, Buddy, Reid and Tippo with Sinclair and Cameron breathing down their necks and providing, as a minimum, injury back-up. Recently, Sinclair's form has been better than Tippett's and so he has deserved selection ahead of Tippett.

[S.S. Bleeder]

We could do worse than having Jarrad AND Steve J as part of our coaching ranks next year.... they both know their stuff.
But you'd expect them to both stay with their current teams.

I personally don't like the idea of recruiting coaches (well a significant % of your coaching team) from within your club. I think it's preferable that at least some of our coaches have been in external organisations to broaden our knowledge base. It would be better for everyone concerned if they effectively swapped clubs in their move into coaching next year.