2017 trading, drafting, list management

[bloodspirit]

I agree on Pink. After a really good start, he had a spell where he hardly touched it, but he seems to have picked back up. He has impressive athletic qualities: quick and applies good pressure for a big man, decent contested grab, good set shot and impressive touch at ground level. I agree with a comment liz made a while ago (or at least this is what I took from it) that he is not the most assertive player and hasn't shown much mongrel, but that could be built with some on-field success.

I disagree re Talia, though. He has good physical attributes but a poor attitude. Delist.

Thanks for your comments, MattW. I'm heartened to know you like Pink because you are one of a few posters (liz, ernie koala and O'Reilly Boy are others) whose opinion on footy matters I especially respect.

I'm not really going in to bat for Talia. I wasn't taking issue with him being de-listed so much as the "definitely". I feel like we don't have much "visibility" (to use a vogue bit of afl-speak) on the club's attitude towards him (except noting he hasn't been selected since R1 2016) and he's one body who could step in for Reg if Reg succumbed to injury. With Melican's rapid development this year, he may be able to do that now in case of emergency with other players (Marsh, Aliir, Laidler) available to help out in the 2nd and 3rd defender spots. Hence very possibly delist just not "definitely" with the limited information available.

[Nico]

How handy would Nankervis be right now. Always thought he would be more resilient than Sam.

[barry]

I know this is bad but I'd quite like Carlton to get first pick in the PSD and get Kelly for nothing from GWS

No (true) swans wants to see southern clubs rape and pillage NSW and QLD clubs ever again.

[Markwebbos]

No (true) swans wants to see southern clubs rape and pillage NSW and QLD clubs ever again.

You might want to run that past AnnieH.

[bloodspirit]

No (true) swans wants to see southern clubs rape and pillage NSW and QLD clubs ever again.

The ole NARF argument.

[MattW]

Thanks for your comments, MattW. I'm heartened to know you like Pink because you are one of a few posters (liz, ernie koala and O'Reilly Boy are others) whose opinion on footy matters I especially respect.

I'm not really going in to bat for Talia. I wasn't taking issue with him being de-listed so much as the "definitely". I feel like we don't have much "visibility" (to use a vogue bit of afl-speak) on the club's attitude towards him (except noting he hasn't been selected since R1 2016) and he's one body who could step in for Reg if Reg succumbed to injury. With Melican's rapid development this year, he may be able to do that now in case of emergency with other players (Marsh, Aliir, Laidler) available to help out in the 2nd and 3rd defender spots. Hence very possibly delist just not "definitely" with the limited information available.

Cheers bloodspirit, I enjoy reading your considered posts as well.

[Mug Punter]

I'm not really going in to bat for Talia. I wasn't taking issue with him being de-listed so much as the "definitely". I feel like we don't have much "visibility" (to use a vogue bit of afl-speak) on the club's attitude towards him (except noting he hasn't been selected since R1 2016) and he's one body who could step in for Reg if Reg succumbed to injury.

Rather than a footnote I would have thought that the fact he hasn't been picked since R1 last year would be the most persuasive indicator of all of how he is viewed by the coaching staff and that he won't be retained. Especially as he wasn't brought in as a project player but a player with quite a bit of senior experience.

IMO he's surplus to requirements and I'd be amazed if he is kept on the list.

At the risk of repeating all the other posters, I'd think BJ, Tyrone and Talia are all locks to not be here next season. The rookies will be more interesting.

[707]

Can't ever remember a time where almost to a person we agree on the probable delistings.

The only point being debated is whether McVeigh should get another season. Is playing to a high standard IMO and should be given another year with no gold pass, just in case.

Rookies are interesting with most showing enough to go again but we can't seem to find definitive rules about what we can do. Anyone got a contact in the club that can clarify?

[Mug Punter]

Can't ever remember a time where almost to a person we agree on the probable delistings.

The only point being debated is whether McVeigh should get another season. Is playing to a high standard IMO and should be given another year with no gold pass, just in case.

Rookies are interesting with most showing enough to go again but we can't seem to find definitive rules about what we can do. Anyone got a contact in the club that can clarify?

The AFL Rules from May 2016 are the most up to date I can find. These should provide definitive guidance and as there's no mention of having to add a minimum amount it would seem the clubs can add or delete to the maximum levels. Think it is like page 57 and there is an appendix at the back.

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/AFL%20Rules%20-%20May%202016.pdf

Re the rookies I think we'll clear some space, I'd like at least one of Brown or Bell from the academy to get a run at the senior list. Edwards I think had to crack the seniors this year to get a second year so he would be one probable for me. That plus Melican's upgrade freeing up two rookie list slots, or a fourth and fifth round pick if we go to a single list, might be enough for this year.

[Matty10]

No (true) swans wants to see southern clubs rape and pillage NSW and QLD clubs ever again.

So it's a green light for the clubs on the west coast then?


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[barry]

We must stand united against the threats from the southern wastelands.

If you created a team from players who have left GWS, sun's, lions and swans it would be the most powerful side ever seen.

[Industrial Fan]

More A grade players poached from Adelaide in the last 6-7 years than anywhere and they're top of the ladder.

Plus they had draft penalties applied in that time.

[Jimitron5000]

More A grade players poached from Adelaide in the last 6-7 years than anywhere and they're top of the ladder.

Plus they had draft penalties applied in that time.

Adelaide do recruiting very well and player retention very poorly. Talk is of Lever and McGovern leaving this year too.

[Mug Punter]

Adelaide do recruiting very well and player retention very poorly. Talk is of Lever and McGovern leaving this year too.

I wonder if living in Adelaide is an issue?

Small-minded provincial city with an obsession about bloodlines, private schooling and lack of convict heritage along with a nasty little underbelly. Insufferable wine snobs and obsessives about social status.

[111431]

I wonder if living in Adelaide is an issue?

Small-minded provincial city with an obsession about bloodlines, private schooling and lack of convict heritage along with a nasty little underbelly. Insufferable wine snobs and obsessives about social status.

Let us know what you think !