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  • ugg
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    • Jan 2003
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    • ugg
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      • Jimitron5000
        Warming the Bench
        • Oct 2006
        • 455

        Not sure I like the Murray trade.
        Never have seen him play but various reports suggest he can either run fast or kick well - although possibly not both - and these are attributes we could do with.

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        • Billericay
          Regular in the Side
          • May 2013
          • 712

          Personally, trade week is a time when I want to trade in everyone and retain everyone, even though it's not the right thing to do. But yes a quick player who kicks well would seem to be someone we could do with. Presumably the Swans will let him go because it would be unfair to deny him the opportunity to play at AFL level, which I respect.

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          • ugg
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            • Jan 2003
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            Tom Harley a few minutes ago
            Murray: "Exchange of future picks"
            Robinson: "Nothing to report so far"
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            • caj23
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 2462

              If we're going to offload Robinson, surely we can afford to offer Murray his spot on the senior list

              This has Shayne Biggs written all over it

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              • ugg
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                • Jan 2003
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                I'm pretty sure it was quoted that the Swans were prepared to offer Murray a spot on the senior list. However, the difference may be that the Pies have offered him a real crack at a first team spot whereas the Swans are quite well stocked in the defenders department for next year.
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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  I know we've been hamstrung with the salary cap, but it used to be us who'd find hidden gems on other lists. Now it's us who are constantly raided for our fringe players

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                  • Meg
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                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4828

                    As Ugg has said we are ?hamstrung? by having (at least) 22 players above Murray in the priority order for the first team.

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      Originally posted by Meg
                      As Ugg has said we are ?hamstrung? by having (at least) 22 players above Murray in the priority order for the first team.
                      The question is are they better than Murray?

                      I don't know the answer, but I do know that we continued to select inferior players in front of Nankervis and Biggs who left for more opportunity. They were both integral parts of the last two premiership teams and have a particular skill set that our current team lacks.
                      I hope that we don't end up in the same scenario with Murray

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                      • ugg
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                        • Jan 2003
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                        Swans and Collingwood submitting the paperwork as we speak.
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                          • Billericay
                            Regular in the Side
                            • May 2013
                            • 712

                            Originally posted by ugg

                            That's a really good trade for us!

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                            • Mr Magoo
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2008
                              • 1255

                              Originally posted by caj23
                              The question is are they better than Murray?

                              I don't know the answer, but I do know that we continued to select inferior players in front of Nankervis and Biggs who left for more opportunity. They were both integral parts of the last two premiership teams and have a particular skill set that our current team lacks.
                              I hope that we don't end up in the same scenario with Murray
                              Nankervis and Biggs were more obvious mistakes as they were to some extent a proven quantity in the firsts, albeit Nankervis was not exactly being lauded by Swans supporters in the way that we all now retrospectively see such a "mistake". Murray hasnt even had a glimpse so if hes not prepared to wait for that chance with the swans and someone like Collingwood comes calling with big promises then he has to see what they really means for him (and I hope he is well advised in that respect).

                              If he turns out a handy player than so be it but I would never as a selector/coach start promising more to him than you had previously foreseen. I would make him aware of the future that you see for him but as with many young people , few can see beyond 12 months and if Collingwood are promising a walk up start to the 22 , let them. Would I see him on our starting 22 at this time - not a chance. Could he be there in a year or two - maybe . Is he screaming out for an opportunity - doubtful from the reserves reports I have read. For a start - you would have to think that Dawson is far more in the " I need more opportunities" space than Murray.

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                              • Mr Magoo
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2008
                                • 1255

                                Originally posted by Billericay
                                That's a really good trade for us!
                                Future round 2 - is this to build up points to get blakey ?

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