Changes for Rnd 14 V Essendon

[crackedactor]

AJ

Aliir cleared, Macca in the mix - sydneyswans.com.au

Aliir Aliir?s been cleared of any major structural damage to the knee he injured in the NEAFL last weekend and is set to train with the main group on Wednesday.

Swans Head of Football Tom Harley said it?s a good outcome for the dashing defender.

?Aliir had a really strong game ? he?s had a really strong couple of weeks both on the track and in the NEAFL,? Harley said in this week?s HCF Injury Update.

Just on that article. It also said that McVeigh has been training with AJ during his injury time off. Does anyone have any knowledge of AJ's progress? Is there any chance he will play this year?

[Markwebbos]

Need BBBH to return to the club to tell Jones that uncontrolled aggression is a problem

I'd pay to watch Jones v Hall, not sure what the rules would be though

[Boddo]

I'd pay to watch Jones v Hall, not sure what the rules would be though

In their prime I'd pick Hall. Bigger, strong n knew how to throw a punch. Former vic boxing champ. Johnny Lewis said Hall if he'd left footy earlier would have won an Aussie pro heavyweight title easy. It's not to say Jones is any lesser man though.

[goswannies]

In their prime I'd pick Hall. Bigger, strong n knew how to throw a punch. Former vic boxing champ. Johnny Lewis said Hall if he'd left footy earlier would have won an Aussie pro heavyweight title easy. It's not to say Jones is any lesser man though.

In their prime?! BBBH today (194cm 104kg with the wingspan of an albotros), with one eye closed and one hand tied behind his back would put Zac (181cm 79kg) in his place pretty quickly.

[Boddo]

In their prime?! BBBH today (194cm 104kg with the wingspan of an albotros), with one eye closed and one hand tied behind his back would put Zac (181cm 79kg) in his place pretty quickly.

Barry Hall is 40. If you have spent any time in any type of combat sport you know by then your an absolute shadow of what you used to be. Yes I've fought at the highest level possible so I'm pretty sure I can say this. I have read that both Jones brothers regularly train in boxing and at times together. Jones would have a tonne of endurance over Barry now. You tell him to get in close work the body, hold & wear him down leaning on him n in the later rounds you'd have your chance. I'm speaking from experience sparring heavyweights. Jones now would have a very slight chance but both in their prime Hall would finish it easy. And most fighters when comparing each other always talk about when both are in their prime and at their absolute best.

[wolftone57]

Yes. I may not be aligned with the swans selection committee on this one.

Who is our big bodied "gorilla" defender to replace Reg, if not Talia ?

Maibaum

[goswannies]

Barry Hall is 40. If you have spent any time in any type of combat sport you know by then your an absolute shadow of what you used to be. Yes I've fought at the highest level possible so I'm pretty sure I can say this. I have read that both Jones brothers regularly train in boxing and at times together. Jones would have a tonne of endurance over Barry now. You tell him to get in close work the body, hold & wear him down leaning on him n in the later rounds you'd have your chance. I'm speaking from experience sparring heavyweights. Jones now would have a very slight chance but both in their prime Hall would finish it easy. And most fighters when comparing each other always talk about when both are in their prime and at their absolute best.

While I confess that I have never tried to pit my muscularly challenged physique in physical combat against any foe, and I do not doubt your claim of pugilism at the highest level possible, and yes Hall is 40, George Forman won a heavy weight title at 45 and successfully defended it at 46, 47 and 48. Now I'm not saying BBBH is as capable as Forman. I might suggest that Zac probably isn't a challenger for a world title though. I don't know either Hall or Jones personally, but my uninformed intuition suggests to me that 1/3 of foot taller and 20kg heavier and a somewhat short fuse, Hall would (in my uninformed opinion) probably make short work of Jones. But as you say, you know more about such things than I, so I'll defer to your experience and wisdom.

[Boddo]

While I confess that I have never tried to pit my muscularly challenged physique in physical combat against any foe, and I do not doubt your claim of pugilism at the highest level possible, and yes Hall is 40, George Forman won a heavy weight title at 45 and successfully defended it at 46, 47 and 48. Now I'm not saying BBBH is as capable as Forman. I might suggest that Zac probably isn't a challenger for a world title though. I don't know either Hall or Jones personally, but my uninformed intuition suggests to me that 1/3 of foot taller and 20kg heavier and a somewhat short fuse, Hall would (in my uninformed opinion) probably make short work of Jones. But as you say, you know more about such things than I, so I'll defer to your experience and wisdom.

If you were handling jones you'd negotiate for 90kg fight. The weight loss would tear him apart inside you'd have a few months in which jones would put on 5-10 kg easy n then all of sudden you hardly have any weight difference. Hall would have to come out n fight damn hard for atleast the first four rounds to finish it n after that with weight loss, age n the fact his body would not be up to hardened training as he hasn't trained in a professional environment for a while n there's jones chance. Sadly there's a hell of a lota politics n backroom stuff in the fight game which no1 ever sees. Hall in his prime wins n wins easy but right now with a hell of a lot of variables involved Jones has a very small chance like I've said but I have said very small. Anyway this thread is getting off track so I'll say one thing n that's that I expect Sydney to win n win easy.

[Markwebbos]

Maibaum

+1

[Sandrevan]

Perhaps the selection committee will go for stability and only make forced changes.

Jones out and Melican in.

I'd like to see Dawson get a run but Towers would be the unlucky one.

Please Horse - no McVeigh. Agree with others he needs some game time in the NEAFL to show he can get through a game without injury.

[dejavoodoo44]

Perhaps the selection committee will go for stability and only make forced changes.

Jones out and Melican in.

I'd like to see Dawson get a run but Towers would be the unlucky one.

Please Horse - no McVeigh. Agree with others he needs some game time in the NEAFL to show he can get through a game without injury.

Yes, Melican in for Jones would be my preferred option. Mainly because Melican lost his place, for the tactical reason, that we only needed one tall defender for Riewoldt. So since his form before that was solid, he deserves to come back in.
Like many others, I'm a bit torn regarding the Towers versus Dawson decision. On one hand, Dawson has been kicking the door down with his form in the ressies, and Towers wasn't great on the weekend. On the other hand, Towers has looked better, since he has been playing less of an outside role: with the game he played against the Bulldogs being very good. Interestingly, he seems to be a better decision maker, when he has less time to make decisions. But anyway, I think that he would be unlucky to get dropped.

[Markwebbos]

Out: Jones, Marsh, Towers
In: Melican, Aliir, Dawson

[Auntie.Gerald]

I still strongly believe to allow ur backline to be strong in counter attack and setting up of play u must nullify the impact of the oppositions forwards

For Lloyd, jones, Newman, Rampe, mills to be able to get loose and be the counter attack we need we have to have a few at least in a lock down type role

Smith
Grundy
Marsh
With the other guys in the backline rotation obviously defenders but getting loose of their run with where ever possible

Lloyd and Newman and jones had those roles on the weekend and it worked well second half

Matchups are vital so the players we want free can play free

Towers has had more run with roles negating the positioning of outside players which has provided more freedom for our runners

My gut feeling is in the small SCG

Out : jones
In : Melican

For me Dawson is more an intro in round 16 against a team like the Suns. I still think Florent is ahead of Dawson especially if we went to a higher % of uncontested football to start the first half like we did against the Bulldogs and in this situation I would free up Rampe to play more open along with Newman and Lloyd and have the following change

Out : jones , towers
In : Melican, Florent

[Markwebbos]

Not seen one comment in favour of McVeigh in this week... anyone?

[dejavoodoo44]

Not seen one comment in favour of McVeigh in this week... anyone?

Well, I still think that McVeigh is a highly skilled player, and whose experience can have a calming influence. But at the moment, we are possibly the form team of the competition, with pretty well every player performing well. There's also guys in the ressies who deserve to be picked. So in that situation, he will probably have to demonstrate form and fitness in the NEAFL, before getting selected in the firsts.
Which I think is sort of healthy and the type of problem, that a few other teams would be glad to have.