2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[707]

For those talking back ended contracts, Buddy gets just $500k in 2022 so it's just 2019-2021 that we are heavily committed.

At the time it was a huge contract but a subsequent 20%+ rise in TPP and the passage of time means Buddy's contract is no longer a pacesetter on a seasonal basis, it's really no more than a host of other clubs with $1mill+ players and there's quite a number of them now.

Still not sure what we are doing with all our spare money going forward :-)

[Meg]

For those talking back ended contracts, Buddy gets just $500k in 2022 so it's just 2019-2021 that we are heavily committed.

At the time it was a huge contract but a subsequent 20%+ rise in TPP and the passage of time means Buddy's contract is no longer a pacesetter on a seasonal basis, it's really no more than a host of other clubs with $1mill+ players and there's quite a number of them now.

Still not sure what we are doing with all our spare money going forward :-)

Well that depends whose version of the contract details you read - when in reality those details are rightly confidential to those involved.

The version I read in The Age, which is the version many quote, has a payment of 1 million in 2022 (which is according to the figures presented in the article a drop from the ‘big’ years of 2019, 2020, 2021 as you say).

I agree with your main point: there will be quite a few players at various clubs earning this sort of money in those years. Which is what the club predicted.

[waswan]

still cant understand why they allocate specific sums so far out ?
say for instance we saved 400k on tippett this year who is to say we couldnt have thrown 250 of that at buddy thus altering all his payments going forward?

[Markwebbos]

still cant understand why they allocate specific sums so far out ?
say for instance we saved 400k on tippett this year who is to say we couldnt have thrown 250 of that at buddy thus altering all his payments going forward?

I would imagine club would absolutely do that if it was under the cap in any particular year

[Meg]

still cant understand why they allocate specific sums so far out ?
say for instance we saved 400k on tippett this year who is to say we couldnt have thrown 250 of that at buddy thus altering all his payments going forward?

Wouldn’t change the cap calculations. The AFL were very specific about that when they cleared the contract. The contract amounts would be counted exactly as set out no matter what actual payments were made.

[caj23]

Wouldn’t change the cap calculations. The AFL were very specific about that when they cleared the contract. The contract amounts would be counted exactly as set out no matter what actual payments were made.

That’s not necessarily correct

If we were in a position to pay some in advance it would be counted as it wouldn’t disadvantage Hawthorn from matching

It’s very unlikely that we’d ever be in the position to do that though

[barry]

That does pretty much sum up your comments, Barry.

Only if you are illiterate.
He is playing the "go home " factor which for a 26 year old is a little embarrassing. They really live in a bubble now that this is the common practice.
I also said most people in real life don't uproot life and job and move interstate when a parent is sick. Some do. Most don't.
Is Gaff a sook? No.

Stop jumping at shadows

[Meg]

That’s not necessarily correct

If we were in a position to pay some in advance it would be counted as it wouldn’t disadvantage Hawthorn from matching

It’s very unlikely that we’d ever be in the position to do that though

Don’t think that’s correct.

‘The AFL has confirmed that the Swans must include Franklin's contract terms in each of the nine years of the contract, irrespective of how long he plays.

The amounts would remain in those particular years even if they paid him a massive lump sum early.’

So I can’t see what point there would be in paying some of Buddy’s contract early.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/revealed-buddy-franklin-to-profit-heavily-in-later-years-of-megadeal-20131009-2v8qk.html

[Ludwig]

I thought the year over year cap was flexible, in that a club could go over or under in one year and make up the difference the following year. A club could pay 95% of its cap in one year and be able to pay 105% the next. If that is the case, the year to year fluctuations wouldn't have to be so exacting, as 5% of he cap is over $600k. That would help work around Franklin's fixed payment schedule.

[Bloods05]

Only if you are illiterate.
He is playing the "go home " factor which for a 26 year old is a little embarrassing. They really live in a bubble now that this is the common practice.
I also said most people in real life don't uproot life and job and move interstate when a parent is sick. Some do. Most don't.
Is Gaff a sook? No.

Stop jumping at shadows

Glad you've cleared that up Barry. He's not a sook, he's just embarrassing. But have some compassion for the illiterates among us. Fine distinctions like that are a bit beyond us.

[Ludwig]

RWO would be oh so interesting if we won the wooden spoon.

[Nico]

RWO would be oh so interesting if we won the wooden spoon.

Wash your mouth out with soap.

[dejavoodoo44]

RWO would be oh so interesting if we won the wooden spoon.

And that's how Scott Morrison was elected to be our latest PM.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Is getting rid of Dan and Gary ruthless enough for those on here who say that some players get games other than on merit?

I'd be quite happy to see Jack retire. He had a couple of reasonable games at the end of this season but, simiiar to Hanners, he's been terrible since the 2016 GF. He may find himself spending some time in the Magoos next season.

[waswan]

Doesnt really make sense players have variables in contracts from game bonuses to all aussie selection goals kicked etc
rookies include match payments
Could be plenty of ullage end of year to pay off buddys contract

I think the only caveat for buddys deal is that it is fixed, he cant take a cut to help us sign others or renegotiate to smooth it out

i guarentee Reid would have had a games played clause that would have saved us a little