2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16738

    Originally posted by Nico
    People forget ROK did his knee early in his career.
    Did he? I recall him having some time out after the death of his brother but don't recall a serious injury (of any description).

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    • crackedactor
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2012
      • 919

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      I think we will be doing the Hannebery trade but will actually be sending Zachary Gates from the media department to the Saints.

      They'll never know.

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      According to the sporting news, the trade for Hannebery is we give them pick 13 and we get pick 4 and Paddy McCartin. Personally doesn't sound bad to me. I love Tom McCartin and would really like him to be a lifetime Swansplayer. Not sure how we manage Paddy M diabetes issue though?


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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by crackedactor
        According to the sporting news, the trade for Hannebery is we give them pick 13 and we get pick 4 and Paddy McCartin. Personally doesn't sound bad to me. I love Tom McCartin and would really like him to be a lifetime Swansplayer. Not sure how we manage Paddy M diabetes issue though?
        I figured we would get back the Saints 2019 2nd round pick, since they don't have either a 2nd or 3rd rounder for this year. But getting Paddy McCartin is a interesting alternative. He looks to be a complete flop so far, but there is some talent there behind all his problems. The diabetes is the least of the issues. His concussions and other injuries are more of a worry. He's also an old time forward that doesn't quite fit with the new speedy offences. Perhaps he could be turned into a key defender.

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        • Nico
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          • Jan 2003
          • 11329

          Originally posted by liz
          Did he? I recall him having some time out after the death of his brother but don't recall a serious injury (of any description).
          Against Hawthorn in a final at Ethihad and that dog Crawford stood over him and gave him a mouthful. Right in front of us. I will never forget it.
          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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          • Muttley
            Pushing for Selection
            • Aug 2018
            • 65

            I think Ireland is signalling that Hannebery and Lloyd arent going anywhere unless the Saints and/or Suns are prepared to offer something very substantial in return....

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            • liz
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              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16738

              Originally posted by Nico
              Against Hawthorn in a final at Ethihad and that dog Crawford stood over him and gave him a mouthful. Right in front of us. I will never forget it.
              It wasn't an ACL injury though, was it?

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                Originally posted by Muttley
                I think Ireland is signalling that Hannebery and Lloyd arent going anywhere unless the Saints and/or Suns are prepared to offer something very substantial in return....
                It would seem that Lloyd is staying since it was confirmed by both the Swans and the Suns. The Swans would be looking for pick 2 or 3, which I would think would be more than the Suns would be willing to give up. They really need a new rebuild from the ground up.

                For what it's worth, everyone outside the Swans thinks Hanners will be a Saint next year. Maybe they're just guessing, but the consensus is overwhelming. They seem to know something. Also, the Saints have admitted they made an offer.

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                • Muttley
                  Pushing for Selection
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 65

                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  It would seem that Lloyd is staying since it was confirmed by both the Swans and the Suns. The Swans would be looking for pick 2 or 3, which I would think would be more than the Suns would be willing to give up. They really need a new rebuild from the ground up.

                  For what it's worth, everyone outside the Swans thinks Hanners will be a Saint next year. Maybe they're just guessing, but the consensus is overwhelming. They seem to know something. Also, the Saints have admitted they made an offer.
                  Fair enough but the Saints pretty much make an offer to any player with a heartbeat so that doesnt mean much.
                  Interesting though. If pick 4 is on the table.... That is a once a decade opportunity...

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                  • Nico
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11329

                    Originally posted by liz
                    It wasn't an ACL injury though, was it?
                    Can't recall but it was knee injury.
                    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                    • KSAS
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 1768

                      Originally posted by Nico
                      Against Hawthorn in a final at Ethihad and that dog Crawford stood over him and gave him a mouthful. Right in front of us. I will never forget it.
                      Yeah that incident was also close to where I was sitting. It was Dale Lewis last game as I do remember him being chaired off (we lost elimination final). Wondering if any final has been played at Etihad since? Dale then made that infamous post match comment knowing of many AFL players who are taking illicit drugs, for which he got heavily sconed from many quarters only to be proven right a decade later.

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11329

                        Also Kelly did a hammie just before half time that did us for the night. My 2 teenage boys got a mouthful from 3 Hawthorn supporters after the game right in their face. They we about 13 and 15 at the time. Disgraceful vermin if ever I saw some. Nothing has changed.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Originally posted by Muttley
                          Fair enough but the Saints pretty much make an offer to any player with a heartbeat so that doesnt mean much.
                          Interesting though. If pick 4 is on the table.... That is a once a decade opportunity...
                          I'm not making a prediction on the Hannebery trade going forward. I'm only repeating what others are saying. Given the picks that each club has, it would seem that a swap of 1st rounders would have to be a key part of any trade.

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                          • aardvark
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5685

                            Tell me why we would want Paddy McCartin. He's not worth a cracker.

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                            • crackedactor
                              Regular in the Side
                              • May 2012
                              • 919

                              Originally posted by aardvark
                              Tell me why we would want Paddy McCartin. He's not worth a cracker.
                              Maybe to ensure Tom McCartin stays in Sydney, would be a good place to start.


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                              • waswan
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 2047

                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                For what it's worth, everyone outside the Swans thinks Hanners will be a Saint next year. Maybe they're just guessing, but the consensus is overwhelming. They seem to know something. Also, the Saints have admitted they made an offer.
                                Maybe if we didnt let Saints talk to his management our CEO wouldnt have to hose down anything

                                A part of me thinks it was initiated by us with a view to landing someone else
                                and now we are trying to calm the farm leading into finals

                                Outside of that i love Hannas but his body language on field is terrible, he seems to be the only one who really has a go at other players for screw ups, which is surprising considering i cant remember a possession he has had, by hand or foot, onto a teammates chest

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