2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[CureTheSane]

Do GWS need Darcy Moore?
You see where I'm going here
Can dream...

[Ludwig]

Do GWS need Darcy Moore?
You see where I'm going here
Can dream...

I can see it. Collingwood trade Darcy Moore for Dylan Shiel. Then everyone can stop talking about Darcy Moore or Dylan Shiel coming to the Swans. Sweet Dreams indeed.

[Ludwig]

Caroline Wilson says (on 3AW Sportday) that Hanners will be at St. Kilda next year, and you can take it to the bank. 4 year deal plus an option for a 5th. She seems very certain.

Does Caro have a good record on these predictions? I've never kept a record on her prognostications.

[707]

Caroline Wilson says (on 3AW Sportday) that Hanners will be at St. Kilda next year, and you can take it to the bank. 4 year deal plus an option for a 5th. She seems very certain.

Does Caro have a good record on these predictions? I've never kept a record on her prognostications.

No idea, she's not noted for being a trade rumour monger like some of the other tossers.

If Hanners is going to the Saints, you'd think it would have to involve their pick 4 but I'm not sure Hanners is going.

As for Shiel, he's contracted for next year and will be held to his contract, GWS aren't winning a flag next year without him.

[Markwebbos]

Caroline Wilson says (on 3AW Sportday) that Hanners will be at St. Kilda next year, and you can take it to the bank. 4 year deal plus an option for a 5th. She seems very certain.

Does Caro have a good record on these predictions? I've never kept a record on her prognostications.

So hard to know who is the cat and who the mouse with the Hanners trade. Surely if the Swans want to keep him they’ll refuse to let him go with 3 years left on his contract. So trade would have to be in our interest.

Putting 2+2 together I wonder if (1) the Swans encouraged Hanners to seek new pastures, hence the flurry of Hanners to x, y, stories a while back (2) Saints bit through the Lethlean connection (3) they are finalising terms.

That makes me optimistic we have a PHP (post-Hanners-plan) in place. Sheil would be a worthy replacement!

Either that or it’s all bull.

[Ludwig]

St Kilda have said they're interested in Hanners and lots of journos have clearly followed it up and confirmed it to the extent that they even know some of the particulars. There is a scenarios where this trade would make sense for the Swans and would imagine that this scenario has also been part of any negotiations. There must be some agreement about these things for the story to still have legs now. It's hard to know how many more pieces have to fall into place to get it done. There must be a lot of negativity in some quarters at St Kilda given Hanners poor form this year.

[troyjones2525]

I have loved Hanners over the years and he has been a great loyal servant of the club, dare I say champion when in his prime! But the Hanners I see now is a shadow of that player. Yes I'm certain that injuries are playing a part but it will never change the fact that his kicking skills are average at best, and to be more pointed they are just plain poor.

It would be an absolute miracle if St. Kilda give up pick 4 or 5 or whatever they will have this year and I'd imagine the St. Kilda pages on social media would go berserk if they gave that up on a busted up former champion. But if they were silly enough to part with that pick we would be mad not to take it as it could set us up through this draft for the next decade.

Like I said at the start, I love Hanners and what he has given us. But football is basically a business these days and if you can get a good deal on a old for new upgrade then you have to take it!

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[S.S. Bleeder]

I've just noticed that the Giants have players from Pennant Hiils in their academy. I thought that was our zone. Very annoying considering the time we've invested in that area over the decades.

[Jimitron5000]

If St. Kilda want to give up pick 4 or 5 for Hanneberry we should take it. We would come out of the draft with two top 10 picks (assuming no one bids on Blakey before pick 4 or 5) that will give us some high end talent for years to come and it would give us some immediate salary cap relief to go after a free agent.

[liz]

I've just noticed that the Giants have players from Pennant Hiils in their academy. I thought that was our zone. Very annoying considering the time we've invested in that area over the decades.

I think the suburb is just in our zone (being in the Hornsby region) but the Pennant Hills club has a catchment area that includes suburbs west of the divide. Here's a map showing how Sydney is divided up. It's an old map, in that includes NSW border regions that are no longer in the Giants' zone, but that doesn't affect the Sydney division.

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/SydneySwans/Club%20HQ/QBE%20Sydney%20Swans%20Academy%20-%20Zoning%20Map.pdf

[AnnieH]

Hanners is under contract. I know that doesn't mean much, but at the end of the day he's under contract.
St Kilda would have to pay his contract out, wouldn't they?
If they're looking for someone who has an atrocious effective disposal rate, he's their man.

[Kafka's Ghost]

Mills is already a star.

+1

[AnsweredPrayers]

Seems like we are heading to a Ryan O'Keefe type of moment with Hanners. He was an All Australian, 2x premiership winner but under contract. We weren't offered enough and he stayed. That said he wanted to go to the Hawks so really a lose lose. Sydney have a long history of making fair trades with the Saints. He's not worth pick 4 alone. Maybe they bundle him up with a promising young player or agree to pay part of his salary but if Hanners wants to go I think the Swans will find a way to make it happen.

[Nico]

I don't think we have any promising young players we would want to give up.

[Nico]

See Essendon has cut Jackson Merret. This after Goddard got the flick. They are making space on their list very early. Making a bid for someone perhaps?