2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • crackedactor
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2012
    • 919

    Originally posted by waswan
    Maybe if we didnt let Saints talk to his management our CEO wouldnt have to hose down anything

    A part of me thinks it was initiated by us with a view to landing someone else
    and now we are trying to calm the farm leading into finals

    Outside of that i love Hannas but his body language on field is terrible, he seems to be the only one who really has a go at other players for screw ups, which is surprising considering i cant remember a possession he has had, by hand or foot, onto a teammates chest
    Just realised that if we swap pick 13 for pick 4, if will be useless. Because wehave to use our first round pick for Nick Blakey.


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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      I wouldnt trust north brissy or suns not to use their picks on Blakey

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6474

        Sam Reid for Darcy Moore - keep hearing Pies want Sam Reid but we need a FF Ruckman given we lost tippo

        Hannes for a decent pick plus maybe paddy MCartin?

        Blakey our first pick

        Paddy McCartin wants to get out of Sydney and is considering becoming Our next Reg Grundy but we will give paddy a go in the forward line in 2019

        If paddy has a change of scenery and fires with 40 goals for the season and tomkeeps playing the athletic tall and Buddy roams around for his 70 goals - well it looks dangerous and a tough match up for most teams


        Paps, Paddy, Tom
        Ronke, Buddy, Hayward


        Paddy McCartin - saints.com.au

        http://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/player-profile/darcy-moore
        Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 23 August 2018, 05:25 AM.
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6474

          McCartin highlights (22/01) - YouTube
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • AB Swannie
            Senior Player
            • Mar 2017
            • 1579

            Originally posted by crackedactor
            Just realised that if we swap pick 13 for pick 4, if will be useless. Because wehave to use our first round pick for Nick Blakey.


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            Not at all. We would use pick 4 on Smith or Rankine. We would get Blakey with the points from our 2nd rounders.

            Caroline Wilson said that you can “take it to the bank” that Hanners will be with St Kilda next year. She doesn’t seem to make these claims lightly like other journos. It’ll be an interesting post season.

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            • Hotpotato
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2014
              • 2261

              Well it’s good to know this early. Makes the planning somewhat clearer.
              He will give it all he’s got the last games with SYDNEY. Then play his twilight years on good coin with the Saints who we don’t dislike.

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              • KTigers
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2012
                • 2499

                Originally posted by Nico
                Also Kelly did a hammie just before half time that did us for the night. My 2 teenage boys got a mouthful from 3 Hawthorn supporters after the game right in their face. They we about 13 and 15 at the time. Disgraceful vermin if ever I saw some. Nothing has changed.
                Yes, there are some class acts in the Hawthorn world. Though they are not all bad. A mate and I flew down for the day for that game
                with two six year olds and a four year old and the Hawthorn fans surrounding us kept offering the kids biscuits and sweets.

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                • chuckie
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 301

                  Paddy McCartin was a dominant player in the under 18's in the years leading up to when he was drafted. For several years the TAC cup have played with a similar rule to the 6,6& 6 rule where the forwards have to basically stay in the forward line and it is a lot more open which makes it difficult to block the forwards from leading into space, this is a similar rule to the one the AFL are currently trialing.
                  When we played the Saints this year he took several marks on the lead and looked ok so maybe he might be worth the risk if the rules change to suit.
                  The health issues he has would make it a risky recruit. In a perfect world and everyone is fit Sam Reid would be well ahead of him.

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    Originally posted by crackedactor
                    Maybe to ensure Tom McCartin stays in Sydney, would be a good place to start.


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                    I'd rather we traded someone more talented than trade for a babysitter.
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • S.S. Bleeder
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2165

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                      • S.S. Bleeder
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2165

                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        It would seem that Lloyd is staying since it was confirmed by both the Swans and the Suns. The Swans would be looking for pick 2 or 3, which I would think would be more than the Suns would be willing to give up. They really need a new rebuild from the ground up.

                        For what it's worth, everyone outside the Swans thinks Hanners will be a Saint next year. Maybe they're just guessing, but the consensus is overwhelming. They seem to know something. Also, the Saints have admitted they made an offer.
                        I wouldn't be relying on what the clubs are saying about any trades at this time of year. They are always going to deny it during the season. When the season is over it's a different kettle of fish.

                        Given his consistency, age and results in the club B&F Lloyd is definitely worth one of those picks but GCS are in the box seat should he make it through to the pre-season draft. I suspect that we might end up getting unders for him, which is a shame because he's a great player, and overs for Hanners given he is under contract.

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                        • S.S. Bleeder
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2165

                          Originally posted by crackedactor
                          Just realised that if we swap pick 13 for pick 4, if will be useless. Because wehave to use our first round pick for Nick Blakey.


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                          No we wouldn't, because pick 4 would be before another club bids on him. If Carlton or GCS bid on him with their picks, 1 (priority), 2, 3 and possibly 4 we'd screwed but that isn't going to happen.

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                          • penga
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2601

                            Originally posted by liz
                            It wasn't an ACL injury though, was it?
                            I remember it as an ACL, but can't find anything on it. I have a distinct image in my head of him kicking an early goal and he looked on fire. Then crumpling to the turf a short time later.

                            The only excerpt I can find is an article that is a story about his brother that refers to ROK in that game being a "late inclusion in the elimination final against Hawthorn, in which he kicked a goal and soon afterwards seriously damaged his knee".



                            He returned in round 10 the next season, which would be a quick recovery from an ACL, so who knows at this point.
                            C'mon Chels!

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16737

                              Originally posted by penga
                              I remember it as an ACL, but can't find anything on it. I have a distinct image in my head of him kicking an early goal and he looked on fire. Then crumpling to the turf a short time later.

                              The only excerpt I can find is an article that is a story about his brother that refers to ROK in that game being a "late inclusion in the elimination final against Hawthorn, in which he kicked a goal and soon afterwards seriously damaged his knee".



                              He returned in round 10 the next season, which would be a quick recovery from an ACL, so who knows at this point.
                              I think that article confirms it wasn't an ACL, given the recovery time usually involved (and this was before LARS was an option). His delayed start to the 2002 season was, I think, due to him taking some time out after the death of his brother. The article certainly suggests his rehabilitation was close to complete by the end of the pre-season, when his brother's accident occurred.

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                              • Plugger46
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 3674

                                Originally posted by liz
                                I think that article confirms it wasn't an ACL, given the recovery time usually involved (and this was before LARS was an option). His delayed start to the 2002 season was, I think, due to him taking some time out after the death of his brother. The article certainly suggests his rehabilitation was close to complete by the end of the pre-season, when his brother's accident occurred.
                                Like Nico and Penga, I always thought it was an ACL. But he was on 'This Is Your Sporting Life' with Peter Donegan last year and he said it was a medial or PCL. I can't remember which now. I'm pretty sure he got stretchered off which is probably why we thought it was an ACL.
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