2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • caj23
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2003
    • 2462

    Rohan's trade value would be pretty low, if he's happy to stay then we'd be mad to trade him.. I know he frustrates plenty on here (me included) but he offers a lot that goes unseen/uncredited

    As for Hanners, I just can't see the trade happening. I don't think he offers the Saints enough to justify a super high draft pick on recent form. It's a hell of a risk for them to take.

    If that super high draft pick isn't on the table (i.e pick 3-4), then where's the benefit for us?

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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      I wonder if Horse would consider playing Rohan as an outside mid?
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16737

        Originally posted by dimelb
        I wonder if Horse would consider playing Rohan as an outside mid?
        Doubt he has the fitness and possibly not the instincts on the best places to run.

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        • Levii3
          Regular in the Side
          • Jun 2015
          • 655

          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          I saw that too. Isn’t Robbo a Bombers fan? Wishful thinking maybe.
          Yes he is a Bombers fan.

          So annoying how reporters act as part of their clubs recruiting. Richmond supporting reporters even more annoying.

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11328

            Originally posted by dimelb
            I wonder if Horse would consider playing Rohan as an outside mid?
            .

            No tank.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              Reid looks to be almost back. Another nail in Rohan coffin.

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4040

                Originally posted by Levii3
                Yes he is a Bombers fan.

                So annoying how reporters act as part of their clubs recruiting. Richmond supporting reporters even more annoying.
                Spot on. Every reporter would have a team and it would colour a lot of their reporting. Not all but a lot. They all should declare it on the principle of conflict of interest.!

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                • Flying South
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 585

                  Originally posted by Nico
                  Rohan is an interesting one for me. Barring an injury run he cannot possibly be considered for another game this year. I think if an offer comes from another club then we would have to seriously consider it. He has added no value to the club for 2 years bar a mark on the goal line against Essendon. Even his forward pressure dropped off in the games. I don't underestimate the effect of his personal issues. Maybe a fresh start would be the best for him.
                  There was the Richmond game last year where we wouldn't have won without his efforts late in the game. And there was another one this year where again late in the game he took a great mark running with the flight of the ball and returned it back inside 50 for a goal to ice the game. Maybe against Hawthorn? Too many on here place too much emphasis on possessions. There is also an unmeasurable x factor that can be just as important. Something worth more than a 3rd or 4th round we'd likely get for him. Besides he's family and I'm not sure the swans would just cast him aside.

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Originally posted by Flying South
                    There was the Richmond game last year where we wouldn't have won without his efforts late in the game. And there was another one this year where again late in the game he took a great mark running with the flight of the ball and returned it back inside 50 for a goal to ice the game. Maybe against Hawthorn? Too many on here place too much emphasis on possessions. There is also an unmeasurable x factor that can be just as important. Something worth more than a 3rd or 4th round we'd likely get for him. Besides he's family and I'm not sure the swans would just cast him aside.
                    I think other players have edged Rohan out of the forward line. I presume the start of next year might see Franklin, Reid and McCartin in a tall but quick forward line. Our 3 small forwards are all good pressure players, so Rohan is not even needed for that role. Consensus is that he doesn't have the tank for an outside midfielder. That reduces the options to defence or the door. I would like us to play Rohan in the back line again in the upcoming reserves' game, as we have in the 1st couple of reserves' games he played in this stint. I like the speed and options we would get from a defence which included Melican, Aliir, Rampe and Rohan.
                    Last edited by Ludwig; 20 August 2018, 07:58 PM.

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                    • chalbilto
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1139

                      Originally posted by Flying South
                      There was the Richmond game last year where we wouldn't have won without his efforts late in the game. And there was another one this year where again late in the game he took a great mark running with the flight of the ball and returned it back inside 50 for a goal to ice the game. Maybe against Hawthorn? Too many on here place too much emphasis on possessions. There is also an unmeasurable x factor that can be just as important. Something worth more than a 3rd or 4th round we'd likely get for him. Besides he's family and I'm not sure the swans would just cast him aside.
                      +1

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                      • S.S. Bleeder
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2165

                        Originally posted by Muttley
                        I feel there is a good solid core of middle age players - Cunningham, Heeney, Jones, Papley, Hewett, Mills, Parker.

                        Some good solid developing players - Aliir, Newman, Melican, Hayward, Florent, Ronke.

                        Hayward may become a star but I think we still need a couple more elite youngsters. If we could snag Blakey and Rankine this year it could set the list balance up for years to come.

                        If you look across the comp then elite players make a big difference. Look at GWS record with and without Kelly. When he plays they win.

                        So I still feel there is a big risk that if you remove Buddy from the Swans we could drop down.
                        I agree. Out of our batch of youngsters coming through Heeney is looking like the only star. The rest are looking like being very good to good. A good team should have an even spread of talent but you also need 2-3 guns. If we got Blakey and Rankine for example we would have the few elite players that we could build a team around.

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                          I agree. Out of our batch of youngsters coming through Heeney is looking like the only star. The rest are looking like being very good to good. A good team should have an even spread of talent but you also need 2-3 guns. If we got Blakey and Rankine for example we would have the few elite players that we could build a team around.
                          I think Mills is likely to become a star in the not too distant future.
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • S.S. Bleeder
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2165

                            Originally posted by royboy42
                            Nico, even at the start of this season, I would have argued this with you.

                            I've been a staunch Rohan defender since he walked in the door, but your comments are resonating with me.

                            Like you, I don't underestimate the broken leg, other injuries and the awful family tragedy; but, I keep remembering his ordinary efforts in some really big games, his generally low numbers and his capacity to over run the ball so many times with his extreme pace being almost uncontrollable.

                            I reckon the Swans would seriously entertain a reasonable offer.

                            Hate to say it.
                            I'm thinking along the same lines. He's always been one of my favourites because of what he's been through and how high his ceiling could be. However, it would seem that he will never reach his true potential. Whether the reason for this is his injury history, his lack of stamina or his inability to read the play I just don't know. I'd be willing to accept a third round pick just to get him off our books.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              When buddy goes, we poach the next big thing. Simple

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11328

                                Mills is already a star.
                                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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