2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[liz]

I'd be interested to know if anyone can think of recent examples to contradict this.

Martin and Kelly left it until very late in the piece last year to recommit to their existing clubs.

[stevoswan]

I'd prefer Gaff to Shiel if we were having a serious crack at someone. Different players and both good but Shiel kicks it to the opposition a lot.

+1

[stevoswan]

Liam Pickering has come out and said today that Darcy Moore is close to re-signing with Collingwood. I’m also thinking since Lloyd hasn’t come out and requested a change of scenery he’ll more than likely stay. Still, it’s all speculation at this point.

Thank goodness for that......we don't need to be recruiting potential injury liabilities. Add to that, he hasn't really proved himself to be a gun whose at the level of Gaff or Shiel or even will be.

[AB Swannie]

Martin and Kelly left it until very late in the piece last year to recommit to their existing clubs.

True but I think the difference is that the their teams were still playing.

[liz]

True but I think the difference is that the their teams were still playing.

I am not sure how that is relevant to what you asked. You suggested that if a player doesn't commit to his existing team before the end of the season, in all likelihood he is gone. While that is probably true more often than not, the two examples I provided show that sometimes players do wait but then decide to stay put.

[AB Swannie]

I am not sure how that is relevant to what you asked. You suggested that if a player doesn't commit to his existing team before the end of the season, in all likelihood he is gone. While that is probably true more often than not, the two examples I provided show that sometimes players do wait but then decide to stay put.

They are very good examples of how players do wait until September to renew contracts. However, my feeling is that there is a milestone moment when the season is actually over for the team. Exit interviews are completed and players go on leave. Therefore, I feel Lloyd is a different case based on this. It's true that Moore and Gaff could also sign before their teams' seasons are over but if they don't I feel that they will also fall into this category.

[liz]

They are very good examples of how players do wait until September to renew contracts. However, my feeling is that there is a milestone moment when the season is actually over for the team. Exit interviews are completed and players go on leave. Therefore, I feel Lloyd is a different case based on this. It's true that Moore and Gaff could also sign before their teams' seasons are over but if they don't I feel that they will also fall into this category.

If Lloyd were a done deal and he had formally requested a trade, would the club not have announced this in the way that they have Hannebery and Rohan? The fact they haven't suggests to me that contract negotiations are ongoing, even if Lloyd is leaning towards accepting another offer.

[MattW]

It's been reported Rory Lobb wants to go back to WA: Giants ruckman seeking move back to WA - DIGITAL SPORTS RADIO.

I don't know whether that means they're more likely to afford Shiel.

[Kafka's Ghost]

True but I think the difference is that the their teams were still playing.

As are Moore and Gaff’s teams.

[barry]

It's been reported Rory Lobb wants to go back to WA: Giants ruckman seeking move back to WA - DIGITAL SPORTS RADIO.

I don't know whether that means they're more likely to afford Shiel.

Rory Lobb has been a major disappointment, but GWS dont really have anyone else. So if he does go, they will be on the hunt for a ruckman. Perhaps even going after Ludwigs champion of the lower leagues, Cameron. ?

[caj23]

I am not sure how that is relevant to what you asked. You suggested that if a player doesn't commit to his existing team before the end of the season, in all likelihood he is gone. While that is probably true more often than not, the two examples I provided show that sometimes players do wait but then decide to stay put.

Josh Kelly re-committed almost to the day last year prior to their prelim final

Dusty Martin re-signed on 31 August last year, prior to the finals commencing

[troyjones2525]

Rose at HBF would be interesting

Our fastest player in the squad supposedly ?

Faster then Rohan

I think that would be an interesting experiment also. He obviously has talent so I hope we don't just delist him. I would also like to see him have a big pre-season and push for a spot in the midfield as I believe he has some assets that we don't have a lot of in there being a bit of flair and real pace.

Could be an interesting experiment with possibly a huge payoff if it succeeded.

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[AB Swannie]

If Lloyd were a done deal and he had formally requested a trade, would the club not have announced this in the way that they have Hannebery and Rohan? The fact they haven't suggests to me that contract negotiations are ongoing, even if Lloyd is leaning towards accepting another offer.

You are probably right. Either way, it is all very interesting. It is one reason that I like the AFL system of drafts and trades as opposed to the NRL - after the season is done, my disappointment is quickly replaced with intrigue and hope by the discussion on such topics.

[caj23]

I think that would be an interesting experiment also. He obviously has talent so I hope we don't just delist him. I would also like to see him have a big pre-season and push for a spot in the midfield as I believe he has some assets that we don't have a lot of in there being a bit of flair and real pace.

Could be an interesting experiment with possibly a huge payoff if it succeeded.

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Yep it would've been, I think its too late though, I'm guessing he will be one of the first delisted

[ernie koala]

I"m not comfortable with Harley being the CEO.
Call it a gut feeling... call it a vibe.

We'll certainly find out over the next year or so.

We have a waning team playing under a coach who may be getting a little stale...

I hope he's up to the challenge of making decisive difficult decisions when required...Only time will tell.