2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16744

    Has anyone yet answered my question about which 2019 2nd round pick we traded out to West Coast? Ours or the Saints?

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    • Mark26
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2017
      • 1535

      Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
      It's starting to become clear what happened now. We're lucky that West Coast didn't screw us over.
      I'd be pretty happy if all the non-Vic clubs banded together and looked after each other's interests to some degree (utopian idealism I know!) The exception would be GWS of course - they're scum.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16744

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        I think recruiters reputations are based on their fairness, other than Essendon of course.
        They are certainly based on long term relationships. Most clubs won’t screw over another. It won’t pay in the long run.

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        • undy
          Fatal error: Allowed memo
          • Mar 2003
          • 1231

          Just heard the previous pick compared to Will Hayward. Interesting that Will had reached that level, usually the yardstick is some 200 gamer
          Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.

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          • Mark26
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2017
            • 1535

            Originally posted by liz
            Has anyone yet answered my question about which 2019 2nd round pick we traded out to West Coast? Ours or the Saints?
            I thought the live announcement was that it was the Swan's future second rounder.

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            • CureTheSane
              Carpe Noctem
              • Jan 2003
              • 5032

              Great stuff. If you look at the pick we effectively gamed by using later picks for Blakey, it's a fairly big win.
              My only concern would be innuendo of collusion with West Coast. Not sure where the line is crossed into draft tampering.
              Biggest problem is that it really doesn't matter whether we have acted properly or not, the AFL is likely to penalise us for being smart.
              Didn't we bring in some super statistician from the Bulldogs? May have been a great move...
              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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              • undy
                Fatal error: Allowed memo
                • Mar 2003
                • 1231

                Originally posted by liz
                Has anyone yet answered my question about which 2019 2nd round pick we traded out to West Coast? Ours or the Saints?
                If you don't know, it's probably only Kinnear that does.
                Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.

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                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15963

                  Originally posted by liz
                  Has anyone yet answered my question about which 2019 2nd round pick we traded out to West Coast? Ours or the Saints?
                  According to Swans twitter it’s ours.
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                  • AB Swannie
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1579

                    Adelaide has done well there. Give up pick 19 and 2019 first for Carlton's 2019 first which will probably be pick 2 or 3.

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                    • Thunder Shaker
                      Aut vincere aut mori
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4168

                      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                      Pretty cool Move
                      Trade out
                      Trade back in
                      Protect ur top draft pick and get Blakey
                      That sounds like the Hokey Pokey.

                      Put your trade pick in.
                      Your trade pick out
                      Your trade pick in
                      And shake it all about...
                      "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                      • S.S. Bleeder
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2165

                        Wow. Carlton trade next years first for pick 19 to get Liam Stocker. They must love him because they'll probably finish in the bottom 6.

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8150

                          Originally posted by Mark26
                          I thought the live announcement was that it was the Swan's future second rounder.
                          Point being Mark we hold 2 2nd rders from 2019 - our actual pick plus the one from St Kilda.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • Markwebbos
                            Veterans List
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7186

                            Originally posted by AB Swannie
                            Adelaide has done well there. Give up pick 19 and 2019 first for Carlton's 2019 first which will probably be pick 2 or 3.
                            That’s a huge win for the Crows! Blues must be desperate to improve their list in a hurry and/or really rate Liam Stocker.

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                            • AB Swannie
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1579

                              Our next pick is only 6 away with Collier-Dawkins still on the board. Does he make it or can we trade up?

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8150

                                Originally posted by CureTheSane
                                Great stuff. If you look at the pick we effectively gamed by using later picks for Blakey, it's a fairly big win.
                                My only concern would be innuendo of collusion with West Coast. Not sure where the line is crossed into draft tampering.
                                Biggest problem is that it really doesn't matter whether we have acted properly or not, the AFL is likely to penalise us for being smart.
                                Didn't we bring in some super statistician from the Bulldogs? May have been a great move...
                                To be honest, I expect what we did may well be outlawed (the question being how precisely do you enforce it) - but I don't think its draft tampering. After all, we had to take the risk West Coast would follow through on the agreement, and they were individual trades in their own right.....
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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