#AFL Round 23 Swans vs Hawthorn, SCG, Sat 25 Aug 7:25pm @sydneyswans #AFLSwansHawks

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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4230

    As someone said, Cunningham did a great job. He's grown as a player and leader this year.

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    • rojo
      Opti-pessi-misti
      • Mar 2009
      • 1103

      I don't think Aliir lost us the game but if he had played as well as he has played the past couple of games we would have won. We really missed his rundowns and long arm spoils. It was as though he was completely rattled. Whatever the Hawks planned for him obviously worked.

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      • troyjones2525
        Swans Fanatic!
        • Mar 2008
        • 2908

        Disappointed that Dawson had a poor game. Really want to see him in the team though as I believe he has plenty of talent. Hope he can have an injury free pre-season and come in fit and firing in 2019. I'd imagine he's possibly played his last game for 2018 though with Buddy and Parker to return.

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        • MattW
          Veterans List
          • May 2011
          • 4230

          If we win in the first week, we play the loser of 2v3 (probably WCE v Collingwood); win that, we play the winner of 1v4 (probably Richmond v Hawthorn).

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            That team we put out tonight has a lot of good players but no stars. Won't win many games against quality opposition

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            • The Big Cat
              On the veteran's list
              • Apr 2006
              • 2360

              Horse was asked a question about Reid at his presser but went on to mention others that probably won't play next game but seemed were roughly in the wings. Included was Mills. Mmmmm.
              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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              • neilfws
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2009
                • 1834

                Disappointing, since I really thought that was there to be won at 3/4 time.

                Felt like they just fumbled their way to a loss. Hawks did what you need to do in the crunch pressure moments: clean hands, good ball use, good decisions. Swans didn't. Too many inexperienced heads maybe.

                Well, there is still hope while we're still in it.

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                • crackedactor
                  Regular in the Side
                  • May 2012
                  • 919

                  Originally posted by troyjones2525
                  Disappointed that Dawson had a poor game. Really want to see him in the team though as I believe he has plenty of talent. Hope he can have an injury free pre-season and come in fit and firing in 2019. I'd imagine he's possibly played his last game for 2018 though with Buddy and Parker to return.

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                  I think he has ability also. Seems to have zero confidence in his ability. Needs to try and take the game on or somehow believe heis up to AFL standard. Loved some of the efforts of McCartin and florent. Can't believe someone on this forum criticised McCartin. St kilda wants to give us pick 4 and Acres or McCartin for Hannebery. Quick let's take it before they change their mind!!!


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                  • mcs
                    Travelling Swannie!!
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8177

                    Originally posted by MattW
                    As someone said, Cunningham did a great job. He's grown as a player and leader this year.
                    He has had a very, very solid season for mine. Was great tonight I though. Both he and Hewett should be top 10 at worst in the B&F in my opinion, Hewett possibly quite a bit higher than that.
                    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8570

                      Originally posted by The Big Cat
                      AFL website lists Aliir as one of our best.
                      Well that's wrong.....

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                      • Plugger46
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 3674

                        Normally take losses pretty well but I’m absolutely filthy after that.

                        Hate those pricks.
                        Bloods

                        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                        • troyjones2525
                          Swans Fanatic!
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 2908

                          Just looking at the stats, too many of our fringe/young players don't get enough of the ball to have any impact. Single figure possession numbers doesn't cut it these days in the AFL. While good teams move the ball around with ease sharing it by hand and foot, we kick to packs and hope for the best which makes it hard for the lighter framed young players to get involved in some easy possession.

                          Our biggest problem is that our strong bodied veteran players have horrible skills and turn it over by hand and foot, even when under minimal pressure. This has been an issue for many many years and I wonder whether its the style of play that the coaches train for as we have never been able to sustain a game plan that is pleasing to the eye for more than a week or two consecutively where we hit up players and score freely. We always tend to fall back into this dour low scoring rubbish that keeps teams in the game where the highly skilled teams chop us up when it counts.

                          Do we not work hard enough in this area at training and in pre-season as I haven't seen an improvement in this area while teams like Richmond, Collingwood, West Coast and others have all of a sudden moved past us playing a fast, skilled and high scoring brand of footy!

                          It's hard to watch and no doubt everyone on here and most people who don't even follow us would have expected a low scoring tight contest tonight. Because we are predictable in the fact that we don't have the ability to come out and put teams to the sword anymore.... changes need to be made this off season.

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                          • Legs Akimbo
                            Grand Poobah
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 2809

                            There was a moment last night where hannebery had the ball in the back pocket and alir lead to space. Could have kicked it to him and should of but didn't. Shortly afterwards they showed what looked like the two arguing heatedly. I also note that Reg's last game was north melb when Alir shone. Reg comes back and Alir turns into a fumbling mess.

                            I also saw hannebery yelling at someone on the boundary when he came off after injuring his leg.

                            At times it looked more like the RWO after match discussion out there than a cohesive happy team.

                            Just saying.
                            He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                            • Matty10
                              Senior Player
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1331

                              Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                              There was a moment last night where hannebery had the ball in the back pocket and alir lead to space. Could have kicked it to him and should of but didn't.
                              This happened a couple of times (not just Hanners). It looked like the players had lost confidence in Aliir.

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16786

                                Originally posted by rojo
                                I don't think Aliir lost us the game but if he had played as well as he has played the past couple of games we would have won. We really missed his rundowns and long arm spoils. It was as though he was completely rattled. Whatever the Hawks planned for him obviously worked.
                                This. There were a few things, individually, that could have turned the result but it would be rough to point at any one of them. I do think that if Aliir had played as he has for the last couple of months, we probably would have won. He's been close to our best player over that period. He seemed to lose all confidence early in the game. I guess the next step in his development is the mental strength to move on quickly from a mistake - especially important for defenders. I can't agree with the person above who asked if he is a fair weather player. He was good even during the period when the whole team was awful. He just had a poor game tonight.

                                What else could have turned things around? We should have been an extra couple of goals ahead at half-time, after dominating in the second quarter. The misses from Hayward and Dawson (first quarter?) stick out as they were very gettable but there were other chances went begging. Even in the final quarter, Kennedy's set shot was well within his repertoire, and Jack had the time and space to steady and get a better kick away.

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