2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[S.S. Bleeder]

They are not. Evidence is the very high number of players who have left including captains. Have we lost a captain?

Same position but not to the same extent. All of the four northern clubs have the same problem. Players are less inclined to want to play for us. It's a fact.

[Aprilbr]

I think that the Swans are a step ahead of the other 3 Nothern Clubs in terms of player retention. Their strong track record of success and well regarded coaching and administration help in this regard. Of course, no-one can get complacent.

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[S.S. Bleeder]

But as the likes of Josh Kennedy head into the twilight of their careers, Bell could be the exact type of player the Swans require.

“We need another inside mid with a bit of speed — and he’s got some legs on him,” Beatson said.

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Interesting comments re what the Sydney swans need / want Re their inside mid rotation

I wonder how wide our search is for this type of player ?

I wonder if they don’t see Jones playing this role ?

I was expecting and hoping that Jones was going to play that role this year. I think he'd be very good at it. He loves being in the thick of it and his hand skills are better than his foot skills. Sadly I think that Jones will be gone at the end of the year.

I haven't seen much of Bell. Does he have the characteristics of an inside mid? I picture him as being too small.

[dimelb]

I was expecting and hoping that Jones was going to play that role this year. I think he'd be very good at it. He loves being in the thick of it and his hand skills are better than his foot skills. Sadly I think that Jones will be gone at the end of the year.

I haven't seen much of Bell. Does he have the characteristics of an inside mid? I picture him as being too small.

I think his size is OK for the job. The Club has him at 183cm and 81 k. Jones by comparison is 181cm and 80k. I think they could work well together.

[707]

Saints have won, pick 4 is now a lock, can only be pushed to 5 if the AFL give GC a Priority Pick, winning the next two doesn't hurt us unless Norf go really badly but surely they regroup after last nights record low score?

Wouldn't be surprised to see us throw in a bid on Green who is a GWS academy player, prolific midfielder with grunt and burst speed who has a lot of upside. Why wouldn't we? GWS don't match, we have exactly what we need, if they do match they burn Essendons first and damage their own first, win/win, we owe them!

So we can now look seriously at the top 5-6 players, a decade and a half since we could do that.

[dejavoodoo44]

Saints have won, pick 4 is now a lock, can only be pushed to 5 if the AFL give GC a Priority Pick, winning the next two doesn't hurt us unless Norf go really badly but surely they regroup after last nights record low score?

Wouldn't be surprised to see us throw in a bid on Green who is a GWS academy player, prolific midfielder with grunt and burst speed who has a lot of upside. Why wouldn't we? GWS don't match, we have exactly what we need, if they do match they burn Essendons first and damage their own first, win/win, we owe them!

So we can now look seriously at the top 5-6 players, a decade and a half since we could do that.

Yes, assuming that Green is still there at pick 4/5, I think we should definitely make a bid. While I didn’t see a huge amount of him playing for the Allies, I did think that he was BOG against a Vic Metro side, which included Rowell and Anderson. And he's a big bodied mid; which should be our priority.

[Ralph Dawg]

I have to agree re Kennedy. Not sure what role he plays next year , but I think we need to reduce his on ball minutes. It appears all these years at the coal face have caught up with him. Mills needs to take his spot in the middle. I don’t care if that leaves a hole in defence , better to try and win if first from the middle then defend wave after wave from the backline.


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I'm not convinced Mills is the answer. His strengths appear to be as a defender, courageous in the air and the overall contest. He lacks composure in tight, prone to turn overs under pressure, either by foot or by handball. I worry that he will be badly found out at the coal face.

So where do we find our JPK and Parker successors. Rowbottom looks the goods but no one of his generation looks likely as an inside mid. Heeney,Jones, Dawson and Papley could be tried but weaken other areas. Ollie looks stronger on the outside. Hewett looks to be a good number 3 inside mid, particularly useful tagging. Other then Hewett, the rest are hybrid mids, more suitable for giving the specialist mids a break. We will not win a flag without 2-3 dominant ball winners.

Our only real solution is to recruit. Green and a proven inside mid could turn us into a top 8 side again. If you don't believe me, think about Brisbane. What has turned them from a bottom 4 side to one challenging for a flag? Lachie Neale and also Jarryd Lyons. Both proven ball winners who have now unlocked the potential in the rest of the team. I would argue that our side has even more upside. Only problem is (and it's a big one) that we can't win enough clean ball to hurt the opposition, as reflected in our consistently low scores.

[Melbourne_Blood]

I'm not convinced Mills is the answer. His strengths appear to be as a defender, courageous in the air and the overall contest. He lacks composure in tight, prone to turn overs under pressure, either by foot or by handball. I worry that he will be badly found out at the coal face.

So where do we find our JPK and Parker successors. Rowbottom looks the goods but no one of his generation looks likely as an inside mid. Heeney,Jones, Dawson and Papley could be tried but weaken other areas. Ollie looks stronger on the outside. Hewett looks to be a good number 3 inside mid, particularly useful tagging. Other then Hewett, the rest are hybrid mids, more suitable for giving the specialist mids a break. We will not win a flag without 2-3 dominant ball winners.

Our only real solution is to recruit. Green and a proven inside mid could turn us into a top 8 side again. If you don't believe me, think about Brisbane. What has turned them from a bottom 4 side to one challenging for a flag? Lachie Neale and also Jarryd Lyons. Both proven ball winners who have now unlocked the potential in the rest of the team. I would argue that our side has even more upside. Only problem is (and it's a big one) that we can't win enough clean ball to hurt the opposition, as reflected in our consistently low scores.

Maybe he isn’t but we won’t know until he gets a proper chance . The fact is he was rated as the best mid in his draft by many experts , and showed great form as an under age player in that position. Has he forgotten how to play on the ball ? Maybe but I doubt it.


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[707]

Maybe he isn’t but we won’t know until he gets a proper chance . The fact is he was rated as the best mid in his draft by many experts , and showed great form as an under age player in that position. Has he forgotten how to play on the ball ? Maybe but I doubt it.

Trained over summer as a mid then through necessity got sent back.

I would much rather Heeney stayed forward but Mills moved to the midfield and we try to find a replacement defender. We must do something different next season.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Josh Dunkley has exploded as a player since moving permanently to the midfield . Mills was rated well above him in their draft year.


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[Markwebbos]

I'm not convinced Mills is the answer. His strengths appear to be as a defender, courageous in the air and the overall contest. He lacks composure in tight, prone to turn overs under pressure, either by foot or by handball. I worry that he will be badly found out at the coal face.

So where do we find our JPK and Parker successors. Rowbottom looks the goods but no one of his generation looks likely as an inside mid. Heeney,Jones, Dawson and Papley could be tried but weaken other areas. Ollie looks stronger on the outside. Hewett looks to be a good number 3 inside mid, particularly useful tagging. Other then Hewett, the rest are hybrid mids, more suitable for giving the specialist mids a break. We will not win a flag without 2-3 dominant ball winners.

Our only real solution is to recruit. Green and a proven inside mid could turn us into a top 8 side again. If you don't believe me, think about Brisbane. What has turned them from a bottom 4 side to one challenging for a flag? Lachie Neale and also Jarryd Lyons. Both proven ball winners who have now unlocked the potential in the rest of the team. I would argue that our side has even more upside. Only problem is (and it's a big one) that we can't win enough clean ball to hurt the opposition, as reflected in our consistently low scores.

It's definitely our biggest problem, winning the ball.

I don't understand why they won't try Mills, or what they would lose by trying that?
A quick fix would require trading as well as drafting. I'd say its urgent that its fixed for 2020
I think contested ball is something we could work on with the entire team during the off-season, as other teams have done

[Ralph Dawg]

Josh Dunkley has exploded as a player since moving permanently to the midfield . Mills was rated well above him in their draft year.


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I like Mills, great ambassador for the club. I would love nothing more then him to fulfill his draft potential. He is a good defender, unlikely to become elite so we should give him the chance in the midfield.

[Blood Fever]

I like Mills, great ambassador for the club. I would love nothing more then him to fulfill his draft potential. He is a good defender, unlikely to become elite so we should give him the chance in the midfield.

I would like to see him in midfield, but he is an elite defender and would be very difficult to replace.

[waswan]

Of we can rob from anywhere its our defence, id put Mills in the Mids for sure. Still a solid defence

Did GWS pick Blakey ? My be a good way to have them scrambling for more picks or we do a good pick swap to Cameron and not use our top pick to get Green, eitherway he will get to GWS

Be happy to keep Jones, 550 600k about the mark we have dollars to spend considering we were going to give that to Langdon

We need 1-2 mids 24-26 yrs old no point letting one walk out

I wonder if Nath Jones getting lowballed has change his thinking any

Not sure who else is out there or available

[Legs Akimbo]

The best teams have a nucleus of 4-6 outstanding midfielders. Dogs rise has been off the back of this.

Our midfield has fallen mightily. Hannebery gone. Mitchell gone. Joey slow and numbers taking. Henney and mills haven't stepped up in the midfield (I dont actually think they belong there).

We need a midfield rebuild.