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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    If we gave up papley to get Cripps, we would still have ronke as the small forward. We actually have a surplus of small forwards. Ronke, paps, Menzel, Heywood, etc.

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    • mattybloods
      Warming the Bench
      • Jul 2016
      • 482

      Originally posted by barry
      Except ronke has zero trade value. Cant get a game in the 4tg worst team.
      Sure we're the 4th worst team but we have some quality small/mid sized forwards ahead of him, unlike Carlton

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6480

        Cripps has played 10yrs of footy in 5yrs

        I don’t think his bashed up body is who we are after despite him being the player that so many teams would jump at

        There is better value

        Another fast outside player is who we want

        Heeney, Hewett, Jones, Mills, Clarke, Rowbottom and Dawson are our inside rotation
        But our outside rotation needs to increase in ability ASAP
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • 111431
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2010
          • 698

          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
          Cripps has played 10yrs of footy in 5yrs

          I don’t think his bashed up body is who we are after despite him being the player that so many teams would jump at

          There is better value

          Another fast outside player is who we want

          Heeney, Hewett, Jones, Mills, Clarke, Rowbottom and Dawson are our inside rotation
          But our outside rotation needs to increase in ability ASAP
          Agreed and Carlton would want our top pick for the next 5 years

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            Originally posted by 111431
            Agreed and Carlton would want our top pick for the next 5 years
            Maybe they’ll let the Crows have him in return for the number 1 pick this year?

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            • royboy42
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2006
              • 2078

              Originally posted by Nico
              With all due respect to Jack. I think he is on the sidelines due to the concussion he got in his last game. He really hasn't had a chance to get back to form. As far as Macca goes he is now getting repeated soft tissue injuries that will probably see him retire at years end. I think he might be the heir apparent to Longmire.
              +1

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4050

                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                Cripps has played 10yrs of footy in 5yrs

                I don’t think his bashed up body is who we are after despite him being the player that so many teams would jump at

                There is better value

                Another fast outside player is who we want

                Heeney, Hewett, Jones, Mills, Clarke, Rowbottom and Dawson are our inside rotation
                But our outside rotation needs to increase in ability ASAP
                Agree with this. Outside is where we can struggle big time in midfield. O'riordan could be useful there. If not, maybe we have a trade target.

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                • MattW
                  Veterans List
                  • May 2011
                  • 4220

                  Originally posted by barry
                  If we gave up papley to get Cripps, we would still have ronke as the small forward. We actually have a surplus of small forwards. Ronke, paps, Menzel, Heywood, etc.
                  Papley is and will be a much better player than Ronke, imo.

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                  • Ruck'n'Roll
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                    If George keeps up his form and beyond, very soon he will be a big fish, as will Jordan, Paps and Aliir. Might be best not to shell out ridiculous money +/-long term contracts greater than 3 years so we can keep these guys.!
                    +1

                    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                    Although I would reconsider that for someone like P Cripps!
                    -1

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                    • Ralph Dawg
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1729

                      Clearly no love for Cripps. So if we were to target a "big fish" mid, who do the fellow posters think will be of most benefit to us? Josh Kelly and Whitfield would bring plenty of outside run as would Andrew Gaff. Neither appear attainable unfortunately.

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        The same people who have "no love for Cripps", probably had no love for Buddy before he became a swan.

                        There is some magical transformation that happens when the player in question puts on a red and white vest. Quick, can someone photoshop Cripps in a swans top, to get these laggards on board!

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Originally posted by barry
                          The same people who have "no love for Cripps", probably had no love for Buddy before he became a swan.

                          There is some magical transformation that happens when the player in question puts on a red and white vest. Quick, can someone photoshop Cripps in a swans top, to get these laggards on board!
                          In Bazza Veritas

                          I was pretty livid when I heard that we'd signed Buddy. Back then I didn't have that high an opinion of him, I think because he was a player for the enemy!

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                          • S.S. Bleeder
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2165

                            Originally posted by Nico
                            With all due respect to Jack. I think he is on the sidelines due to the concussion he got in his last game. He really hasn't had a chance to get back to form. As far as Macca goes he is now getting repeated soft tissue injuries that will probably see him retire at years end. I think he might be the heir apparent to Longmire.
                            I don't think that Jacks issue is form. He been terrible for the last few years and has played plenty of games during that period. I suspect that his body is shot. I remember someone telling me he had some leg issues? I think he would have finished had he not been given this very long contract. McVeigh has the ability to play on but his body can't hold up. Smith is one player that may continue. His body has been good up until this year.

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                            • Captain
                              Captain of the Side
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3602

                              No love for Cripps. I have heard it all.

                              He is an absolute gun and future Brownlow medalist.

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                              • S.S. Bleeder
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 2165

                                Originally posted by barry
                                If we gave up papley to get Cripps, we would still have ronke as the small forward. We actually have a surplus of small forwards. Ronke, paps, Menzel, Heywood, etc.
                                Menzels not a small forward. My concern with Ronke his form last season might have been a flash in the pan. That would leave only with Heywood as the only speedy/small forward in the team. Having said that, Cripps is a future Brownlow Medalist and you would sell the farm to get him.

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