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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11332

    Originally posted by Mark26
    I'm in favour of HB. He has the talent. His character is the question mark for me.
    More trouble than a fox in the chicken coop.
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      Originally posted by barry
      I would say Coniglio is going. He hasnt signed yet, and the Giants are making noises about player retention.
      Put 1 and 1 together and you get 2. ie. they want more retention powers to retain Coniglio. (which they wont get in time).

      So GWS will get a pretty good pick for Cogs, and make getting green and any other academy players they want easier.
      If Cogs goes, I cant see GWS interested in any trades with Sydney. If they have retention issues with Victoria, why let a player go who is happy to stay in Sydney.?
      Good post.
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      • Mark26
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2017
        • 1535

        Originally posted by Nico
        More trouble than a fox in the chicken coop.
        I'm intrigued by the potential damage this fox could do on the field to the opposition.

        I don't think he'd have a negative effect on our culture (even if he were to stuff up). Our club will show players the door if they carry on. They've done this in the past. I do think that the culture of our club could have a positive impact though.

        If HB is to get another opportunity at any club, it depends on whether has the fortitude to be a responsible player.

        I would be open to a medical and a conversation.

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        • S.S. Bleeder
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2014
          • 2165

          Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
          Just did the ladder predictor and we came third last. Knightmare has Rowell as third pick behind Anderson and Green. Make it happen!

          We just need Carlton to keep going on their winning ways.

          Hopefully Suns don't get a priority pick. Timing would suck even if warranted.
          I'd love it to happen but it won't :-(. GWS will match any bid on Green and Melbourne will then select Rowell or Anderson. It grinds my gears that Melbourne are going to add another gun to their list when their ladder position is the result of poor management and not their poor playing list.

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          Originally posted by Jimitron5000
          Round 22 - Melbourne v Sydney, looms as a crucial clash to see who can get pick 2!

          The Suns don't need more kids. They need more money for better staff, better infrastructure and better experienced players who can make a difference to them.
          The Rowell Cup?

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
            The Rowell Cup?
            Be the first time in more than a decade that Carlton hasn't been one of the combatants in these "Cups", it has won every previous time!

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            • KSAS
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2018
              • 1773

              Aaron Francis anyone?

              AFL trade whispers, rumours, news 2019: Brad Crouch St Kilda, Aaron Francis contract, Essendon | FOX SPORTS

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                Not sure about Francis. He's a high draft pick but still struggling to become a regular in the Essendon side in his 4th year. He's only played 23 games. He's also more of an interceptor than a one on one defender.

                Brad Crouch on the other hand

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                • S.S. Bleeder
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 2165

                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  Not sure about Francis. He's a high draft pick but still struggling to become a regular in the Essendon side in his 4th year. He's only played 23 games. He's also more of an interceptor than a one on one defender.

                  Brad Crouch on the other hand
                  There's been talk all season about The Crows offloading one of the Crouch's. As usual, they'll probably want to head home to Victoria and someone like Hawthorn will reap the benefits as usual.

                  It seems that the only very good players that we can attract are;
                  * Players we offer overs to (Buddy and Tippett - isn't going to happen),
                  * Players getting away from the limelight (Buddy and Plugger), or
                  * Players wanting to come home (Davis - extremely rare).
                  There are very few players that fit this bill.

                  We are going to have to pick the eyes out of who is available and pick a player that isn't getting the opportunities at his current club.

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                  • MattW
                    Veterans List
                    • May 2011
                    • 4198

                    Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                    There's been talk all season about The Crows offloading one of the Crouch's. As usual, they'll probably want to head home to Victoria and someone like Hawthorn will reap the benefits as usual.

                    It seems that the only very good players that we can attract are;
                    * Players we offer overs to (Buddy and Tippett - isn't going to happen),
                    * Players getting away from the limelight (Buddy and Plugger), or
                    * Players wanting to come home (Davis - extremely rare).
                    There are very few players that fit this bill.

                    We are going to have to pick the eyes out of who is available and pick a player that isn't getting the opportunities at his current club.
                    * Players underappreciated by their club and the market (Joey)

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                    • Legs Akimbo
                      Grand Poobah
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 2809

                      Originally posted by MattW
                      * Players underappreciated by their club and the market (Joey)
                      I think we have one one our list already...Clark. I think he's going to turn out well.
                      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                        There's been talk all season about The Crows offloading one of the Crouch's. As usual, they'll probably want to head home to Victoria and someone like Hawthorn will reap the benefits as usual.

                        It seems that the only very good players that we can attract are;
                        * Players we offer overs to (Buddy and Tippett - isn't going to happen),
                        * Players getting away from the limelight (Buddy and Plugger), or
                        * Players wanting to come home (Davis - extremely rare).
                        There are very few players that fit this bill.

                        We are going to have to pick the eyes out of who is available and pick a player that isn't getting the opportunities at his current club.


                        I agree with the last sentence. To my mind, that's been the Swans way. Outside of key forwards. We have a pretty long track record of trading for "stars" even if it doesn't always go according to plan (Tippo). We will have to think soon enough about a replacement for Buddy. I don't think any one on our books has the makings of the number 1 forward.

                        I had another thought re: Gold Coast. There's been all this talk of Burgoyne being Gold Coast's "Hodge". But Hodge went to the Lions because of his connection to Chris Fagan. So logically it should be a Swans player who becomes the equivalent at GCS. Then I started thinking, which current Swan would be the Hodge of Gold Coast, and only one name came to mind. MACCA!

                        Well I also wondered about Joey Kennedy!

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                        • S.S. Bleeder
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2165

                          Invitees to the draft combine;
                          AFL announce 79-man Draft Combine invite list | Zero Hanger

                          Slim pickings in NSW, especially compared to Vic, WA and SA which is evidence that we need assistance.

                          Some scouts are suggesting that Rowell is better than Sam Walsh. Shame we didn't lose a few more games.
                          Last edited by S.S. Bleeder; 31 July 2019, 09:54 PM.

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                          • S.S. Bleeder
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2165

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            [/B]

                            I agree with the last sentence. To my mind, that's been the Swans way. Outside of key forwards. We have a pretty long track record of trading for "stars" even if it doesn't always go according to plan (Tippo). We will have to think soon enough about a replacement for Buddy. I don't think any one on our books has the makings of the number 1 forward.

                            I had another thought re: Gold Coast. There's been all this talk of Burgoyne being Gold Coast's "Hodge". But Hodge went to the Lions because of his connection to Chris Fagan. So logically it should be a Swans player who becomes the equivalent at GCS. Then I started thinking, which current Swan would be the Hodge of Gold Coast, and only one name came to mind. MACCA!

                            Well I also wondered about Joey Kennedy!
                            I see Blakey as being very capable of being a Buddy replacement. The problem is that I also see Blakey as being great at FB, CHB, wing, midfield, etc, etc. Where do you play him? He can play anywhere.

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4041

                              [QUOTE=S.S. Bleeder;781670]There's been talk all season about The Crows offloading one of the Crouch's. As usual, they'll probably want to head home to Victoria and someone like Hawthorn will reap the benefits as usual.

                              It seems that the only very good players that we can attract are;
                              * Players we offer overs to (Buddy and Tippett - isn't going to happen),
                              * Players getting away from the limelight (Buddy and Plugger), or
                              * Players wanting to come home (Davis - extremely rare).
                              There are very few players that fit this bill.

                              We are going to have to pick the eyes out of who is available and pick a player that isn't getting the opportunities at his current club.[/QUOTE

                              In 2008, 2009 and 2010, we picked up Mattner, Shaw, Kennedy, Mcglynn and Mumford. We need to replicate this to a degree I reckon. Not sure if it can be done anymore.

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                              Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                              I see Blakey as being very capable of being a Buddy replacement. The problem is that I also see Blakey as being great at FB, CHB, wing, midfield, etc, etc. Where do you play him? He can play anywhere.
                              Eventually midfield mostly and forward.a la Bontempelli and Martin. Great decision maker.
                              .

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                              • AnnieH
                                RWOs Black Sheep
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 11332

                                Macca's pulled the plug...

                                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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