2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • KSAS
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2018
    • 1770

    On Footy Classified last night the panel gave their hypotheticals on which players would be a good fit at other clubs. Caro suggested Mason Cox would be a fit for us considering our Ruck stocks.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6474

      AFL trade whispers, rumours, news: Joe Daniher Sydney, coy response | Fox Sports

      Didn’t rule out not being at the Bombers

      Certainly could have answered the question directly and honestly
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8545

        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        AFL trade whispers, rumours, news: Joe Daniher Sydney, coy response | Fox Sports

        Didn’t rule out not being at the Bombers

        Certainly could have answered the question directly and honestly
        At this stage of the season and with things possibly still 'up in the air'.....no, he could not. Surely you know how things work re: player movements pre the trade period.....in fact, all season long. Honesty usually begins when players actually sign on the dotted line.

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Originally posted by KSAS
          On Footy Classified last night the panel gave their hypotheticals on which players would be a good fit at other clubs. Caro suggested Mason Cox would be a fit for us considering our Ruck stocks.
          I wondered about that when they said he would be better playing as a number 1 ruck st another club

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            Originally posted by KSAS
            On Footy Classified last night the panel gave their hypotheticals on which players would be a good fit at other clubs. Caro suggested Mason Cox would be a fit for us considering our Ruck stocks.
            He has had a handful of good games and a whole heap of stinkers. No thanks.

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11329

              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
              AFL trade whispers, rumours, news: Joe Daniher Sydney, coy response | Fox Sports

              Didn’t rule out not being at the Bombers

              Certainly could have answered the question directly and honestly
              Anyone can read anything into a comment however they want. I thought he was pretty straight forward. How do you know he didn't answer honestly. Just heard what he said again and he sounded straight up front. Coy my lemonade.

              Didn't rule out going to Hawthorn either.
              Last edited by RogueSwan; 4 September 2019, 08:23 AM. Reason: fixed quote tags
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • Thunder Shaker
                Aut vincere aut mori
                • Apr 2004
                • 4164

                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                AFL trade whispers, rumours, news: Joe Daniher Sydney, coy response | Fox Sports

                Didn’t rule out not being at the Bombers

                Certainly could have answered the question directly and honestly
                Too early. Essendon still have finals to play.
                "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                • Thunder Shaker
                  Aut vincere aut mori
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4164

                  Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                  Darcy much stronger in the forward line than Archie but Archie superior as a pure ruck, quite mobile and athletic and consistently bests Darcy in the hit outs. Given our playing style and list, Archie would be a more than adequate replacement for Darcy. If this can be done for a good price, then I would be for it.
                  Perhaps a three-way trade between the three clubs?

                  Brisbane get a pick from Carlton (possibly pick 39)
                  Carlton get Cameron
                  Sydney get Smith
                  "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    The situation with Daniher and Papley is similar to that when it was rumoured that Longmire was going to NM. A lot of journos were talking as if it were a done deal. Nothing definitive was said by Longmire; only that he was contracted for next year. And we know how that story ended.

                    One of the things that bothers me about bringing in Daniher is what chance do either Amartey and McLean have of seeing AFL footy for the next 3 years with Buddy, Daniher, Reid, McCartin and Sinclair all competing for 2 or 3 spots in the forward line. Similar to why Membrey left us. I don't like undercutting our own listed players. Surely we can wait another year to see how things unfold next year with our current group of forwards and re-evaluate same time next year, as we would do anyway.
                    Last edited by Ludwig; 3 September 2019, 10:33 PM.

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186



                      Article says Daniher is likely to stay at Essendon. But adds.

                      "should there be a late twist during the trade period, the Bombers could expect two first-round draft selections in return for him."

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                      • Markwebbos
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                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Young gun enhances top-five claims with stunning performance - AFL.com.au

                        GIPPSLAND Power midfielder Sam Flanders' brilliant finals performance on Sunday furthered his claims as a possible top-five pick at November's NAB AFL Draft.

                        Flanders was outstanding in the Power's tough eight-point loss to the Oakleigh Chargers, putting in a best-on-ground showing to boost his stocks at the business end of the season.

                        The powerful 18-year-old kicked four goals in the first half and finished with 27 disposals (16 contested), nine clearances and seven tackles in a well-rounded display at Ikon Park...

                        The clash between the sides was seen as a battle of some of the country's high-end talent, with Gippsland's Flanders and Caleb Serong taking on Oakleigh pair Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson.

                        Serong was also terrific throughout the contest, collecting 29 disposals, nine clearances and seven inside-50 entries. His form as a tough, contested ball-winner has continued unabated throughout the year.

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                        • KSAS
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1770

                          Originally posted by Markwebbos
                          https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...03-p52ncj.html

                          Article says Daniher is likely to stay at Essendon. But adds.

                          "should there be a late twist during the trade period, the Bombers could expect two first-round draft selections in return for him."
                          Not a chance! All the more reason we should wait 12 months when Daniher becomes a RFA. I doubt the AFL would compensate Essendon with 2 first round picks!

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6474

                            Does one Tim Taranto (draft pick 2) or one Callum Mills (pick3) make more difference in a team vs say having two top ten picks on the field ?

                            For me I think the best decision for our team is to have two players around draft pick 10

                            I think it is a very valid argument for an AFL team and statistically probably the smartest decision to diversify via two players at say pick 10ish rather then one at pick 4/5

                            I’d love to see any data that maybe floating around to support a for and against on this strategy ?

                            We have seen so many top draft players moderately successful the last 5 years or so. Why not average them out and strengthen ur team via two players

                            To take two picks around pick 10ish gives us twice the opportunity of getting it right and secondly if both players turn out above average then we have a much much stronger team

                            The contrary argument is that our draft committee think that our pick 4/5 gets us the front row seat to choose one of 5 players who are undoubtedly elite?

                            ———

                            I still like the idea of being able to negotiate with a team that simply can not afford one of their drafted players from the last year or two. Ie a Jye Caldwell as an example pick 11 a year ago and a seriously emerging midfielder.
                            Gws have just paid a huge amount for Coniglio and they have a massively expensive midfield ie they have Kelly, Taranto, Green, ward, hopper, Whitfield and more emerging

                            Jye was a pick 11 but prior to 4 injuries in his draft year was ranked 5-10 as a draftee.

                            We trade pick 4 and pick 23 in exchange for a Jye Caldwell type player and say pick 11 in return

                            The pick 4 allows a team like gws to stretch out their salary cap constraints and even out the emergence of talent into their top 22 plus get their Tom green who is a top6 pick

                            Collingwood
                            Bulldogs
                            West coast
                            Geelong
                            Etc maybe in a similar challenge re salary cap and emerging talent

                            For us it gives us a very exciting midfielder who will be in their second preseason and still gives us another pick 11. Ready to get 20 games plus in 2020.
                            Come 2021 an important year for us - a player like Jye will be his third pre season and really humming when we need it........plus we will have another pick 11 also in their second pre season

                            Two players
                            Two picks around 10ish
                            Diversified yet top talent
                            Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 4 September 2019, 06:35 AM.
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • dejavoodoo44
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8514

                              Originally posted by KSAS
                              Not a chance! All the more reason we should wait 12 months when Daniher becomes a RFA. I doubt the AFL would compensate Essendon with 2 first round picks!
                              And if he spends the next twelve months injured, then perhaps an appropriate level of compensation, would be a framed photo of Stephen Dank and a brief note, enquiring whether a course of peptides would have helped?

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                              • S.S. Bleeder
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 2165

                                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                                Darcy much stronger in the forward line than Archie but Archie superior as a pure ruck, quite mobile and athletic and consistently bests Darcy in the hit outs. Given our playing style and list, Archie would be a more than adequate replacement for Darcy. If this can be done for a good price, then I would be for it.
                                Smith dominated our rucks a few weeks ago in the NEAFL.

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