#AFL Round 2 Swans vs Crows Fri 29-Mar at SCG #AFLSwansCrows @sydneyswans

[Ralph Dawg]

Both teams we have played have pushed ahead of Sydney players at contests and off HBF just way too easily

This separation is always a two way street.....generally high risk high reward

If we win the ball the the opposition is in serious trouble for sprinting ahead of the ball. Yet the bulldogs dominated winning the ball

The HBFs at Adelaide and thebullogs made us look like reserve grade teams and my concern is two fold

1. Teams know that they can be bold against us and go immediately into an offensive mode by pushing away and separating at the contests. This is embarrassing that teams consider this tactic so achievable and so far both the bulldogs and Adelaide fearlessly executed

2. Is our midfield so weak ? I feel it is a grave decision not to have Heeney and Mills in their hunting for the ball - Papley and Clarke are so far behind the quality midfields in the Comp and we need to be a bit more respectful of the midfield contest

We have lost two games against two teams that I would have liked to think we can finish higher then on the ladder

If we loose another two games I am 100% sure we will see us develop even more for the future by altering a player selections

That means :

McCartin playing

Mills and Heeney 75% of game time in the midfield

Jones back on the HBF Like last night he played 50/50 HBF midfield and this helped our transition

Maybe even Florent on the HBF ? Flooding forward as he is a jet or if McCartin is playing well enough get blakey off HBF for 2019 as he would be seriously exciting with intercepts speed and kicking

We can’t have lloyd macca and Smith in the backline soon and we are struggling with lloyd and macca right now so let’s keep blooding our future now / the dogs and Adelaide showed us with fast streaming forward HBFs leaving players like macca etc who are slow and in defence just grasping air once the opposition transition the opposite way

You are 100% correct. Both WB and Crows seem to exit defence with impunity. The forward tackling pressure exerted by Ronke, Papley and Hayward has been minimal. Bringing Jack might help in the short term but can we not do what alot of other clubs do too and park one of our young pacy mids in there with one job - tackle everything that moves. Stoddart, McInerney, Rowbottom, Florent are all options. It also gets some AFL gametime and experience into our draftees, which I think is preferable to the NEAFL. No point getting 30+ touches in NEAFL then stinking it up when called into 1st's.

[liz]

but can we not do what alot of other clubs do too and park one of our young pacy mids in there with one job - tackle everything that moves. Stoddart, McInerney, Rowbottom, Florent are all options.

Why will it be successful parking Stoddart, McInerney or Rowbottom there with an instruction to tackle everything that moves if it isn't parking Ronke and Hayward there?

One of our issues is the lack of effectiveness of tackling all over the ground and, in part, this can be attributed to the number of young, immature bodies we have out there. I'd hoped it would improve a bit this season compared to last but the early evidence is that it hasn't. But I don't think you can expect any of the similarly immature frames of Stoddart, McInerney or Rowbottom to fare any differently.

For more than a decade now, the Swans' ability to effectively apply pressure all over the ground was a major factor in us being a very good side. Our midfield has never been the most skilled, disposal wise, so has always been prone to turnovers, but they were generally able to apply supreme pressure to win the ball back. Now we can't. But throwing another young body into the fray can't be the answer.

[caj23]

On the first 2 rounds of football we are a 50/50 proposition against Carlton next week

Where we go to from there if we lose that as well will be interesting

[Hotpotato]

Swans have kicked 17 goals in 4 hours so far. Have to work on that.

[KSAS]

If we loose another two games I am 100% sure we will see us develop even more for the future by altering a player selections

Keep in mind we have played the 3rd most debutants in the competition over the last 3 years and those debutants have played the most games in the competition, so there's no question Longmire is willing to give the kids a go. However it's also important what roles/positions these debutants are given with their development and also help rectify our team weaknesses in the process, as you've correctly suggested in your full post AG.

[lwjoyner]

another game of poor play by swans (turnovers out of back line (lloyd a culprit again how is he a B&F winner), booting it high into fwd line).Who is our recruiter how did we pick Clarke he should be banished to the NEAFL never to return. Pathetic coaches again moving AA to ruck dont change our backline leave it be let them get used to playing together.
COR just ok obviously someone didnt explain to him the 5o metre rule in irish, players were told to back off and make sure someone down the field pick up mark. Bring in thurlow a half back. I am giving up on the umpires, they are useless but its no use compalining we ar the swans after all the afl and reporters dont care about us.

[Ralph Dawg]

Why will it be successful parking Stoddart, McInerney or Rowbottom there with an instruction to tackle everything that moves if it isn't parking Ronke and Hayward there?

One of our issues is the lack of effectiveness of tackling all over the ground and, in part, this can be attributed to the number of young, immature bodies we have out there. I'd hoped it would improve a bit this season compared to last but the early evidence is that it hasn't. But I don't think you can expect any of the similarly immature frames of Stoddart, McInerney or Rowbottom to fare any differently.

For more than a decade now, the Swans' ability to effectively apply pressure all over the ground was a major factor in us being a very good side. Our midfield has never been the most skilled, disposal wise, so has always been prone to turnovers, but they were generally able to apply supreme pressure to win the ball back. Now we can't. But throwing another young body into the fray can't be the answer.

It might not be, I agree. But look at the young bodies that have been wheeled out this season so far who have more than held their own against "men". If youngsters have the fight in them, they will take down anyone. I'm just sick of seeing our current small / medium forwards not making their tackles stick and not manning up. Throw Rampe in there then, anything but not convinced by the current batch.

[Agent 86]

15 and 16 disposals for mills and Heeney is just not enough influence on the game for good decision makers

Yes u can argue that less is more if it is high quality but the counter arguement is if inferior players are not using the ball well then let’s make sure our best players have the ball more

Isaac carrying an ankle injury, so full game in middle wasn't an option. He also appeared to be affected by a knock early on. He'll be back.

[ernie koala]

First out for mine is Clarke...He was extremely disappointing, and I'm not referring to his disposal.

I'm referring to his attack on the footy and non existent pressure (0 tackles for the match) ...Sorry to say this, but it was soft.

I would also bring in McCartin for Blakey. Blakey's going to be a top player, but right now we could do with the more physical McCartin.

The 50/50 umpiring decisions might of gone against us, but it was the poor tackling, and at times the lack of pressure around the ground, that cost us the match.

[Blood Fever]

[QUOTE=Velour&Ruffles;770004]Me too. My dog ran from the room.[/QUOTE

LOL

[gazza]

where is the famous bloods pressure, kirk must feel sick watching the fumbles,missed tackles and half paced chasing opponents. they seem to think they are better than reality. I have been a supporter since their Sydney arrival, I saw more desperation and pressure in the years when we couldn't win a game. very concerned about the coaching, stop making excuses and give them all a bollicking

[Hotpotato]

The Eagles won the Granny against the biggest club in Victoria and AFL umpires .
So it can be done.

[Blood Fever]

Horse as expected did not go anywhere near hard enough as he should have. We'll never win a free kick count with weak leadership like this!

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On the other hand, I admire his restraint while intimating that there was a problem. Look at total press conference.

[waswan]

Scrww the coin toss, didnt see it but the way it was fumbled and dropped sounds like she may be picked in our midfield next week


Mills and Heeney in the middle more, not sure how many people in the country need to say it before Longmirr changes

One thing it has made me feel good about is Mitchell going.... Longmire would probably have him on the opposite HFF to Heeney
Still not ready to graduate to the midfield

[Melbourne_Blood]

Swans have kicked 17 goals in 4 hours so far. Have to work on that.

Yet we’ve also twice had 5 goal quarters . We can score , we can score well, but we can’t do it consistently over the course of the game . That’s the issue .


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