#AFL Round 2 Swans vs Crows Fri 29-Mar at SCG #AFLSwansCrows @sydneyswans

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  • neilfws
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2009
    • 1818

    Not to talk up the opposition, but the Seedsman torp was quite impressive. Just got home to see the replay - not unlike the famous Bradshaw goal, from a similar position.

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    • aardvark
      Veterans List
      • Mar 2010
      • 5685

      Originally posted by 09183305
      I presume you mean recruited from other AFL clubs?

      Based on his 2 games (where much of the team was ordinary)? Reserve judgement ‘til he’s had a career at the Swans the length and quality of Derickx, Chambers, Daffy, Aaron Rogers, Talia, Shaun Edwards, Chris Obst, Stephen Tingay
      I reckon he fits right in with that lot. Off to the NEAFL for the term of his contract please.

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      • Swanny40519
        Regular in the side.
        • Oct 2012
        • 469

        Back from the game and with a couple of Scotches - the umpiring still has me fuming. It was disgusting, cheating, crap whatever you want to call it.

        Horse has to get the umpires coach up to Sydney and blast the proverbial out of him.

        Worse umpiring since 2016GF

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        • S.S. Bleeder
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2014
          • 2165

          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          We’ve never been so dependent on the young players as we are this year. I think the Hanners, Mitchell situation stuffed our plans. Also wonder if Hewett was meant to be an onballer by now rather than a tagger/defensive forward?
          +1.

          I said at the time that Mitchell was going to be a gun and that we should have traded Hanners or Parker to make way for him (at the time they were equal IMO).. Yet, I was ridiculed. I'm not saying that Parker and Hanners haven't been great for us; I am saying that both had excellent trade value at that time and that Mitchell was going to be better than either of them. And I was right.

          I think that we went through a period there where we were scared of turning our list over for fear of screwing it up. Compare that to Hawthorn who were very happy to take a short term risk and take a strategic view of their list.

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          • U.S. Swan
            Warming the Bench
            • Apr 2017
            • 175

            Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
            +1.

            I said at the time that Mitchell was going to be a gun and that we should have traded Hanners or Parker to make way for him (at the time they were equal IMO).. Yet, I was ridiculed. I'm not saying that Parker and Hanners haven't been great for us; I am saying that both had excellent trade value at that time and that Mitchell was going to be better than either of them. And I was right.

            I think that we went through a period there where we were scared of turning our list over for fear of screwing it up. Compare that to Hawthorn who were very happy to take a short term risk and take a strategic view of their list.

            That is assuming Mitchell wanted to stay...everything I have read seems to indicated he had every intention of going to Victoria.

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            • S.S. Bleeder
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2014
              • 2165

              Originally posted by MattW
              Well said. And well done Harley for this very strong statement: Club Statement - sydneyswans.com.au.
              Bloody hell. The club responds about the offence created by a poor coin toss yet remains silent about the years of incompetence/corruption by the AFL in regards to the umpiring. The club needs to get their priorities right. Bloody pathetic.

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              Originally posted by U.S. Swan
              That is assuming Mitchell wanted to stay...everything I have read seems to indicated he had every intention of going to Victoria.
              Yes, but only because we didn't have the cap space to pay him what he was worth. Mitchell wanted to stay. The Tippett deal was the main reason for this but we could have made room if we had the balls to make the tough decisions.

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              • Bexl
                Regular in the Side
                • Jan 2003
                • 817

                Originally posted by Swanny40519
                Back from the game and with a couple of Scotches - the umpiring still has me fuming. It was disgusting, cheating, crap whatever you want to call it.

                Horse has to get the umpires coach up to Sydney and blast the proverbial out of him.

                Worse umpiring since 2016GF
                Meredith is the same ump from 2016 gf.
                Meredith is the same ump who paid the free for holding the ball in the 3rd quarter of this game.
                You tell me what you think of him. I think hes a piece of @@@@.

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8543

                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  I see the poor umpiring as a positive. It shows that we are a better team than the score suggests.

                  We are at least a few years away from being premiership contenders, so why don't we just relax and see how the team develops.
                  ....and when we are, we'll get shafted.

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8543

                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    2 ways to look at season 2019: one a massive disappointment, two a key development year.

                    Is it finally time to say “rebuild”?
                    We've been sort of rebuilding for a couple of years now.....it's just not coming to fruition fast enough.

                    I think game plan is the main problem though.....

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                    • jcroz29
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 41

                      Originally posted by 09183305
                      I presume you mean recruited from other AFL clubs?

                      Based on his 2 games (where much of the team was ordinary)? Reserve judgement ‘til he’s had a career at the Swans the length and quality of Derickx, Chambers, Daffy, Aaron Rogers, Talia, Shaun Edwards, Chris Obst, Stephen Tingay
                      Urg - Daffy ...


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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6474

                        Both teams we have played have pushed ahead of Sydney players at contests and off HBF just way too easily

                        This separation is always a two way street.....generally high risk high reward

                        If we win the ball the the opposition is in serious trouble for sprinting ahead of the ball. Yet the bulldogs dominated winning the ball

                        The HBFs at Adelaide and thebullogs made us look like reserve grade teams and my concern is two fold

                        1. Teams know that they can be bold against us and go immediately into an offensive mode by pushing away and separating at the contests. This is embarrassing that teams consider this tactic so achievable and so far both the bulldogs and Adelaide fearlessly executed

                        2. Is our midfield so weak ? I feel it is a grave decision not to have Heeney and Mills in their hunting for the ball - Papley and Clarke are so far behind the quality midfields in the Comp and we need to be a bit more respectful of the midfield contest

                        We have lost two games against two teams that I would have liked to think we can finish higher then on the ladder

                        If we loose another two games I am 100% sure we will see us develop even more for the future by altering a player selections

                        That means :

                        McCartin playing

                        Mills and Heeney 75% of game time in the midfield

                        Jones back on the HBF Like last night he played 50/50 HBF midfield and this helped our transition

                        Maybe even Florent on the HBF ? Flooding forward as he is a jet or if McCartin is playing well enough get blakey off HBF for 2019 as he would be seriously exciting with intercepts speed and kicking

                        We can’t have lloyd macca and Smith in the backline soon and we are struggling with lloyd and macca right now so let’s keep blooding our future now / the dogs and Adelaide showed us with fast streaming forward HBFs leaving players like macca etc who are slow and in defence just grasping air once the opposition transition the opposite way
                        Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 30 March 2019, 06:17 AM.
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • KSAS
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1766

                          HS review of the game, which includes Eddie's coin toss blunder. It doesn't mention the horrendous umpiring other than the costly McVeigh decision in the 3rd quarter, which was a huge momentum game changer:

                          Outline - Read & annotate without distractions

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6474

                            “An aging midfield needs the boost Isaac Heeney and Callum Mills can provide”

                            AFL website article by Curley this morn comments as above

                            When issac went into the midfield last night the momentum changed and his presence was obvious in the contest
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              15 and 16 disposals for mills and Heeney is just not enough influence on the game for good decision makers

                              Yes u can argue that less is more if it is high quality but the counter arguement is if inferior players are not using the ball well then let’s make sure our best players have the ball more
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • stellation
                                scott names the planets
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9718

                                Originally posted by liz
                                Pretty much this. We were just a tiny bit less clean with our ball handling skills than the Crows, just slightly slower at reacting to the drop of the ball, just slightly poorer at getting players to contests, and just slightly worse at missing tackles (or better at missing tackles). It all adds up and saps the confidence somewhat, but we only need a handful of players to improve by a small margin and better football will follow.
                                That's a reasonable observation. I thought it just seemed we were slightly off the pace with everything, I found the game obviously frustrating, but also relatively encouraging.
                                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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