#AFL Round 6 Swans v Giants Sat 27-Apr at SCG #AFLSwansGiants @sydneyswans

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  • lwjoyner
    Regular in the Side
    • Nov 2004
    • 983

    selectors take some blame why ronke when he dint fire in reserves definetly lacking in confidence Clarke the same. leave them in reserves for a couple of games.

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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4248

      Originally posted by lwjoyner
      selectors take some blame why ronke when he dint fire in reserves definetly lacking in confidence Clarke the same. leave them in reserves for a couple of games.
      And then play Clarke for only 58% of the game. He is consistently playing low minutes when he plays. I genuinely don't understand what they are trying to achieve with his selection. His ball use and decision-making is mediocre, he is not hard at it and he plays low minutes.

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      • Melbourne_Blood
        Senior Player
        • May 2010
        • 3312

        Originally posted by barry
        Only 7 or 8 months ago we hosted a final against GWS where we went in as favourites. Since then GWS had their best midfielder and Ruckman poached.

        There shouldn't be this big a gap between the sides.
        Shiel would be lucky to have been the third best midfielder at GWS. Miles behind kelly and coniglio.


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        • troyjones2525
          Swans Fanatic!
          • Mar 2008
          • 2908

          Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
          Reflecting on last night's performance and earlier ones this season, the player I'm most concerned about is Mills. We drafted him in 2015 and he had 2 good season's to start his career. Last year was written off due to injury. Not withstanding, his start to this year has seen him go backwards. He lacks poise coming out of defence, summed up by a bad hand ball when we had run to a marked player, when he should've backed himself to run and carry. He has had some awful clangers, gifting turn over goals and dropped some very easy marks. At times he has been very indecisive, getting pinged for holding the ball or causing a turnover. Definitely not the player of 2015/16. Perhaps that's why the coaches are not confident in playing him in the midfield? Others from his draft are really hitting their straps (Hopper being one of them, even our own Dawson) yet he is just average at best.
          Play him in the middle and free him from his defensive pressures! Horse must do it or move on as far as I'm concerned! If he continues this path his confidence may be that shot he'll never be any good!

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4069

            Originally posted by The Big Cat
            It's easy to understand what's happening. Half those in the team has played less than fifty games. We cleaned out the blokes in the middle age group because they won't play in our next premiership. Robbo, AJ, Deano, Hanners, Newman, Gazza. They have been replaced with KIDS, so time to be patient. It's not rocket science!
            Too many on here spoilt by our last 15-20 years. Sense of entitlement, too ready to point the finger and no patience. Never thought I'd see this from South/Swans fans.

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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              Definitely agree Sinclair needs help in the ruck. He’s actually one of best heart and soul players , can’t fault his effort at all and always contributes around the ground but is getting smoked in the ruck contests. Is Cameron a good tap ruckman ? If so get him in and let Sinkers play some time at full forward ( alternating ruck as well) , he’d be good for two goals a game and would straighten us up a little. Our long bomb strategy might actually work if he’s the target. Love Dawson , he’s improved almost every game since he came back in. Thinking he’s best suited as an on baller so let’s start playing him there more. Maybe by this time next year he’ll be being talked about like Taranto and hopper , if he gets a chance to show what he can do in the position he kills in the NEAFL. No reason to keep him out of there , even If it means Joey moves out of the guts. We should be following Geelongs lead and reducing the centre bounce attendances of our older midfielders and getting experience into the future brigade. This is the perfect year to do that as I don’t think there are any expectations , internally or externally about us playing finals now. I want to see development , even if it means I have to watch hidings. Don’t care , faster we do it the faster we get back into contention. Mills has to be given an extended midfield run now too, and COR surely has to come in to his spot. We need to know if Mills is the player we thought he was going to be . Keep Rowbottom in ahead of Jack and maybe give anyone performing in the NEAFL Ronkes spot. He is a shell of his 2018 self. Happy to not see any of Grundy , Macca, Smith or Jack back in the side this year.


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              • Legs Akimbo
                Grand Poobah
                • Apr 2005
                • 2809

                One of my major frustrations is the way horse brings in new players and plays them out of position. The club has now turned it into a thing. The hybrid role. I find this really annoying.

                Dawson happy as hybrid - sydneyswans.com.au

                I can't help but feel this has contributed to our nextgen of young players not establishing themselves.

                Trying to be positive about what comes next not down about what is happening now. Seeing steady development of our players helps that. This isn't helping development.

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                One of my major frustrations is the way horse brings in new players and plays them out of position. The club has now turned it into a thing. The hybrid role. I find this really annoying.

                Dawson happy as hybrid - sydneyswans.com.au

                I can't help but feel this has contributed to our nextgen of young players not establishing themselves.

                Trying to be positive about what comes next not down about what is happening now. Seeing steady development of our players helps that. This isn't helping development.
                He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                • Swanny40519
                  Regular in the side.
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 469

                  Very poor effort last - skill errors everywhere, we fumbled, dropped marks, handballed to opposition, couldn't hit a target and gave away many easy goals.

                  We need to bring more pace into our slow moving attack and don't leave our forwards to compete against 2 or 3players. There were so many occasions where we kicked to the forward line, only to have 1 Swans against 2-3 GWS. No wonder we cannot score enough goals to try and win a game.

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                  • AB Swannie
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1579

                    Unfortunately, there is no easy fix.

                    1.Our once were superstars are not any more. They are still very good but no one, including Buddy, would be in line to be considered in the top 30 players in the comp at the moment.

                    2. The next group to take over are a year or two away yet - Heeney, Mills, Florent, AA, Jones. They have all shown at times this year that they have the potential but they haven’t consistently played 4 quarters with a 3pt Brownlow performance.

                    3. Our bottom few are really struggling. Every team has some bottom players that play a role but ours are getting beaten every week. I was so hopeful that Ronke was going to be another rookie jewel but his skills just don’t match his effort. In the 5 games he has played this year, he has managed only 11 effective kicks at a kicking efficiency of 39%. I was high in Clarke too but he also turns it over with really poor skills.

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                    • Swanny40519
                      Regular in the side.
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 469

                      Looking at some of the stats from the game - we had 5 players with 50% or less effective disposal - Clarke was running at 27%. GWS had 1 and that was Greene ! Our skills are the major factor in most of our turnovers and that is what is killing us.

                      We were smashed in the hit outs and I think it is time we gave Sinkers some help. Play Cameron and let Sinkers rest in the forwards.

                      Play Mills in the centre and bring in COR at HBF.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Originally posted by AB Swannie
                        Unfortunately, there is no easy fix... I was high in Clarke too.
                        Think Longmire needs to stop getting high in Clarke too.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Originally posted by Swanny40519
                          Looking at some of the stats from the game - we had 5 players with 50% or less effective disposal - Clarke was running at 27%. GWS had 1 and that was Greene ! Our skills are the major factor in most of our turnovers and that is what is killing us.

                          We were smashed in the hit outs and I think it is time we gave Sinkers some help. Play Cameron and let Sinkers rest in the forwards.

                          Play Mills in the centre and bring in COR at HBF.
                          Yes! Surely that is one simple change. Get rid of Clarke, move Mills to the mids and put COR in defence. Ditto Ronke out replaced with anyone from the NEAFL.

                          Surely at least one if not two of Melican, McCartin, Blakey has to go out too.

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                          • Scottee
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 1585

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            Yes! Surely that is one simple change. Get rid of Clarke, move Mills to the mids and put COR in defence. Ditto Ronke out replaced with anyone from the NEAFL.

                            Surely at least one if not two of Melican, McCartin, Blakey has to go out too.
                            I think C'OR is shaping up as a mid after seeing him play there in then twos.
                            We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              Shiel would be lucky to have been the third best midfielder at GWS. Miles behind kelly and coniglio.


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                              Maybe second behind Kelly,but ahead of coniglio.

                              From last year GWS have lost lobb, shiel, Scully and... Paton and concrete head (long term injury), while adding mumford.

                              Swans have lost Rohan, Newman and gained Reid.

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4069

                                Originally posted by Scottee
                                I think C'OR is shaping up as a mid after seeing him play there in then twos.
                                Worth a try- we are getting slaughtered apart from Kennedy. Parker was ok and looked handy forward. Heeney needs more time in midfield.

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