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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4193

    #31
    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
    Agility (seconds)
    Hayden Young 7.940 seconds
    Elijah Taylor 8.005
    Thomson Dow 8.061
    Trent Rivers 8.100
    Oisin Gallen 8.197
    Chad Warner 8.203
    Sam Flanders 8.206
    Noah Cumberland 8.208
    Connor Budarick 8.242
    Dylan Stephens 8.245

    Yo-Yo test (level)
    Jay Rantall 21.8 level
    Cooper Stephens 21.8
    Connor Budarick 21.6
    Chad Warner 21.6
    Oscar Lewis 21.5
    Sam Philp 21.5
    Lachlan Ash 21.4
    Harrison Jones 21.4
    Finn Maginness 21.4
    Trey Ruscoe 21.4
    Riley Baldi 21.3
    Sam Flanders 21.3
    Matt Rowell 21.3
    Jeremy Sharp 21.3
    Dylan Stephens 21.2 reported elsewhere
    Also, elite endurance and agility from Warner.

    Looking at this video, you can see what attracted us to him: PICK 39: Chad Warner - Highlights - YouTube.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6474

      #32
      i dont think i have forgot anyone prior to rookie draft today etc

      we had 39 Snr players in 2019
      we had 9 rookie players in 2019
      48 players in total ?

      i have 44 players so far on our books with Wicks for 2020

      B: Lloyd, Rampe, McCartin
      HB: Mills, AA, Dawson
      C: Florent, Kennedy, Rowbottom
      HF: Hayward, Reid, Blakey
      F: Heeney, Franklin, Papley
      FOL: Parker, Naismith, Hewett
      IC: Gray, Cunningham, Taylor, Stephens

      B: Melican, Brand, Oriordan
      HB: Stoddart, Gould, Reynolds
      C: McInerney, Clarke, Ling
      HF: Foot, Taylor, Fox
      F: Ronke, McLean, Wicks?
      FOL: Bell, Sinkers, Warner
      IC: Amartey, Knoll, Oconnor, Thurlow

      TBC

      Maibaum?

      Aidyn Johnson? pre season training with us - from Port Adelaide

      rookie draft players?
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16733

        #33
        I think last year we had 39 senior players, 5 Cat A rookies, 2 Cat B rookies and three supplemental rookies, making 49 in total. We can’t replace the supplemental rookies at this point of the season but can increase the Cat B rookies up to 4. So the most we can land up with on the list at the end of today is 47.

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        • KSAS
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2018
          • 1766

          #34
          I would think we would have one of the "younger" lists for 2020.

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            #35
            Originally posted by wolftone57
            Gould will play round one if he has a good preseason

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            I'm with you on that one Wolfie. I was a bit sceptical about him being overweight and unfit but apparently when KB told him to improve his skin folds, he shredded very quickly.

            In a pro environment, he will continue to be pushed by the coaching staff and has already shown he will respond. His highlights package shows he's got a good turn of pace, excellent kick and strong overhead. If he can get his fitness to the required level, pencil him in for round 1!

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            • graemed
              Swans2win
              • Jan 2003
              • 410

              #36
              Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
              I'm with you on that one Wolfie. I was a bit sceptical about him being overweight and unfit but apparently when KB told him to improve his skin folds, he shredded very quickly.

              In a pro environment, he will continue to be pushed by the coaching staff and has already shown he will respond. His highlights package shows he's got a good turn of pace, excellent kick and strong overhead. If he can get his fitness to the required level, pencil him in for round 1!
              I always look forward to these threads, especially following a national draft.

              The last few rounds of 2019 gave me great faith in our list, but the disappointment of the thought of losing Papley and worse gaining Daniher, lead me to thinking we ere heading into another Tippett discussion. Thankfully none of the dire nightmares occurred.

              For there to be change, i.e. Gray, L. Taylor, Brand, Stephens, Gould, E. Taylor and Warner, then players in the past list must give way. Apart from those retirees, Jones is the only player that was a regular member of the best 22, that will be missing in 2020. This means someone from the list above must be better than those coming forward.

              Naismith and Sinclair are available, at least one will come in for MacLean, although there was definite upside to his performances, he was not able to sustain it over a number of weeks. I liked Nankervis ahead of Naismith in 2016, but the list managers decided to let him go and again I lamented (see Mumford for Tippett). Naismith is better than Sinclair as a ruck and on-baller, Sinclair is better than Naismith up forward, but we need tall forwards less than we need a competitive follower, hence Naismith for me.

              One-on-one I think, Lloyd loses most contests. His running is elite but where does he run to and what does he do when he gets there. I know this will be unpopular but I do not like the way, Lloyd carries the ball to the boundary. I prefer O'Riordan. Both have pace, both kick well, both look to create but I prefer the Irishman's decision making, discipline and courage.

              Clark or Cunningham? Clark did some great jobs for us last year, particularly against North on Cunnington and others later in the season. It will be hard to ignore his poor efficiency when he has possession, so Harry for me.

              As a small forward, Papley is clearly ahead of Ronke, but is there is place for him? With Hayward coming back, I think, Ben will struggle to keep his position. He showed resilience coming back into the team and his tackling was better towards the end but as a marking option a fit Hayward is ahead of him. Sam Gray is a another small forward and again I think he is ahead of Ben, I am surprised and delighted to have picked him up, he is very clean, takes his opportunities and gets a lot of the footy.

              Melican, Brand, McCartin or Gould? I was impressed watching Brand play on Franklin last year, but Melican has been steadily improving, he has a habit of giving up free kicks but has good pace, reads the game well and disposes of the footy very well. For mine, McCartin is too valuable up forward to consign him down back unilaterally, using him as a stop gap would be perfect. This leaves Gould. I think we need to find out how well he is able to handle talls before we can compare him to the others in this category.

              So,

              O'Riordan Rampe Allir

              Mills Brand Dawson

              Florent Kennedy Blakey

              Hayward Franklin Parker

              Papley Reid McCartin

              Naismith Hewitt Heeney

              I/C
              Gray Cunningham Lloyd Rowbottom
              Last edited by graemed; 29 November 2019, 10:52 AM.

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              • Ralph Dawg
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2018
                • 1729

                #37
                Here's my fearless best 22

                B Cunningham Rampe Gould
                HB Dawson Aliir Mills
                C Florent JPK Blakey
                HF Papley Franklin Heeney
                F Gray Reid McCartain
                Foll Sinclair Hewett Parker

                Int Hayward Rowbottom Taylor O'Riordan

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                • bloodspirit
                  Clubman
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 4448

                  #38
                  Originally posted by graemed
                  O'Riordan Rampe Allir

                  Mills Brand Dawson

                  Florent Kennedy Blakey

                  Hayward Franklin Parker

                  Papley Reid McCartin

                  Naismith Hewitt Heeney

                  I/C
                  Gray Cunningham Lloyd Rowbottom
                  Looks about right for Round 1 except I'm not sure about Brand ahead of Melican and Gould.

                  Going forward Stephens and Gould are going to be putting pressure on to debut. O'Riordan probably the player most in danger of losing his spot. Who makes way for Stephens if no injuries? Harry C? Not sure if I can see that happening. Maybe Dewey will just have to wait for an injury (or loss of form) to get his chance.
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                  • Captain
                    Captain of the Side
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3602

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                    Here's my fearless best 22

                    B Cunningham Rampe Gould
                    HB Dawson Aliir Mills
                    C Florent JPK Blakey
                    HF Papley Franklin Heeney
                    F Gray Reid McCartain
                    Foll Sinclair Hewett Parker

                    Int Hayward Rowbottom Taylor O'Riordan
                    No Lloyd?

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                    • Ralph Dawg
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1729

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Captain
                      No Lloyd?
                      Shows how Lloyd just goes about his work in such an unassuming fashion, racking up 30+ possessions without anyone noticing! Bring him in for Cunningham, Harry to the bench, Squizzy to cool his heals in the NEAFL (or running laps around lackside to get into shape!)

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                      • aguy
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1324

                        #41
                        Okay. Here goes with my round 1 team.

                        B Gould Rampe Brand
                        HB Lloyd Aliir Dawson
                        C Florent Hewett Mills
                        HF Heeney Reid Papley
                        F McCartin Franklin Blakey
                        Foll Naismith Kennedy Parker

                        INT O’Riordan Rowbottom Stephens Haywood

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                        • Mountain Man
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 907

                          #42
                          That looks like a mid season team. Round 1 likely to be a bit more conservative

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                          • aguy
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1324

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man
                            That looks like a mid season team. Round 1 likely to be a bit more conservative
                            This is the dilemma between whether we are trying to predict what the selectors WILL do or whether we are saying what we WANT them to do.

                            The above is what I want. But I think they will prob do is Melican instead of Brand. Cunningham instead of O’Riordan. And either Ronke or Gray instead of Stephens.

                            I think Gould will surprise us and be selected round 1. He is a mountain and his wirh jones having gone they will want a creative backman playing.

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                            • AB Swannie
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1579

                              #44
                              With Longmire's recent history, I think it is more likely that Stephens plays Rd 1 than doesn't. In recent years, our first round draft picks have gone like this:

                              2019 - Blakey debuted Rd 1
                              2018 - Matt Ling injured
                              2017 - Florent debuted Rd 1, Hayward debuted Rd 2
                              2016 - Mills debuted Rd 1
                              2015 - Heeney debuted Rd 1

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4040

                                #45
                                Originally posted by AB Swannie
                                With Longmire's recent history, I think it is more likely that Stephens plays Rd 1 than doesn't. In recent years, our first round draft picks have gone like this:

                                2019 - Blakey debuted Rd 1
                                2018 - Matt Ling injured
                                2017 - Florent debuted Rd 1, Hayward debuted Rd 2
                                2016 - Mills debuted Rd 1
                                2015 - Heeney debuted Rd 1
                                Good chance to play a block of games and then be rested a la Heeney

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