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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    Originally posted by 111431
    based on how Daniher played on the weekend - you only want him for what he showed when played in the ruck in the last qtr. for the first 3/4 he looked disinterested or injured
    Disinterested - no problems

    Injured - yikes!

    To get Bombers pick 7 we will have to be offering at least $750k for 2-3 years, that's a big commitment with Buddy still having two years to run but we may have room. No way do we trade for JD, he can go to the PSD for nothing, He wants to leave the spotlight in Melbourne so Crows and Norf don't suit and he doesn't even have to talk to them which is what Martin did last year in refusing to talk to Melbourne who had a pick before Carlton.

    Will Brad Crouch nett Crows pick 2? The money on offer would have to be as for Daniher. Brad has had serios injury problems in the past, is a good accumulator of the ball but is one paced and ordinary disposal by foot. I don't have him in the echelon of mids to command that kind of money on the supposed five years he wants. Who are possible suitors with $ to burn? St.Kilda? Norf? Not Bombers as it would cancel out their JD compo pick. No club is trading for Crouch, he's too fragile and vanilla.

    Lots to play out here, let's hope we still have pick 3 come draft night and a compo pick hasn't pushed it back. IMO no compo pick should be slotted in above the non finalists.

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    • Nico
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 11328

      Hawthorn usually take the injured yesterday's heroes.
      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Originally posted by Nico
        Hawthorn anyone.
        The last thing they need is yet another one paced mid with ordinary foot disposal, already got several!

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        • O'Reilly Boy
          Warming the Bench
          • Feb 2014
          • 474

          So, how many players will we have to delist, and who is most at risk?

          For me:

          Stoddard
          Ling
          Maibaum
          Taylor, E
          Gray (is he contracted for another year?)
          Knoll
          Brand
          O'Riordan
          Ronke

          I think that Clarke, Thurlow and Fox have shown enough to be retained, and that the other Taylor was doing enough to snag a small forward role ahead of Ronke.
          I feel for Ling, but think that he falls down the pecking order as it has unfolded this season. Stoddard has had two cracks and not had an impact. Maibaum I also feel for, but the back half is looking sturdier with McCartin looking very good, Mellican finding some form, Rampe to return, and Gould hopefully to have an impact. Brand? And I wonder with Thurlow, Fox and Dawson whether we need O'Riordan.
          Amartey stays, and we probably have to give Reynolds and Rowles a crack.

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            Can anyone explain to me how retirements are viewed in the AFL? For example, Buddy retires but has 2 years left on contract. Does he still get paid for those years? If so, does that then come off our cap? If he doesn't, does it still come off our cap? If a payout is negotiated, does it come off the cap?

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4040

              Originally posted by O'Reilly Boy
              So, how many players will we have to delist, and who is most at risk?

              For me:

              Stoddard
              Ling
              Maibaum
              Taylor, E
              Gray (is he contracted for another year?)
              Knoll
              Brand
              O'Riordan
              Ronke

              I think that Clarke, Thurlow and Fox have shown enough to be retained, and that the other Taylor was doing enough to snag a small forward role ahead of Ronke.
              I feel for Ling, but think that he falls down the pecking order as it has unfolded this season. Stoddard has had two cracks and not had an impact. Maibaum I also feel for, but the back half is looking sturdier with McCartin looking very good, Mellican finding some form, Rampe to return, and Gould hopefully to have an impact. Brand? And I wonder with Thurlow, Fox and Dawson whether we need O'Riordan.
              Amartey stays, and we probably have to give Reynolds and Rowles a crack.
              Would be surprised if ORiordan was cut and I would like to keep Brand. Looked very handy in his brief appearances.

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              • gloveski
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 1018

                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                Can anyone explain to me how retirements are viewed in the AFL? For example, Buddy retires but has 2 years left on contract. Does he still get paid for those years? If so, does that then come off our cap? If he doesn't, does it still come off our cap? If a payout is negotiated, does it come off the cap?
                If buddy retires it comes off our cap


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                • Ralph Dawg
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 1729

                  Originally posted by gloveski
                  If buddy retires it comes off our cap


                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                  If hubs are the new normal, months away from your normal life (outside of footy), it does make me wonder how motivated Buddy would be, given his recent injury history, new child and of course father time.

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                  • Aprilbr
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 1803

                    My recollection of the Buddy deal is that we still have to keep his $ on our salary cap regardless of retirement.

                    On other recent comments, I will be quite surprised if we trade away our Number 3 pick. I can't see Adelaide getting a really low pick as compensation for Crouch.

                    I think that Daniher will leave Essendon. Whether he goes to us is another story. We are probably slight favourite now. There is no point trying to trade with Dodorro as we all know from past events, so make a reasonable offer to Daniher but not an excessive offer and see what happens. If Essendon match, which they likely won't, then so be it.

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11328

                      I doubt any club will offer more than 3 years for a player moving clubs. The trading and FA landscape has changed.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4040

                        Originally posted by Aprilbr
                        My recollection of the Buddy deal is that we still have to keep his $ on our salary cap regardless of retirement.

                        On other recent comments, I will be quite surprised if we trade away our Number 3 pick. I can't see Adelaide getting a really low pick as compensation for Crouch.

                        I think that Daniher will leave Essendon. Whether he goes to us is another story. We are probably slight favourite now. There is no point trying to trade with Dodorro as we all know from past events, so make a reasonable offer to Daniher but not an excessive offer and see what happens. If Essendon match, which they likely won't, then so be it.
                        Will feel very uneasy if we get Daniher

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Bombers have just put a 4 year offer on the table for Daniher.

                          Not sure if that’s for his benefit or to guarantee they get pick 7 if he walks (on the basis any other club would have to beat it).

                          I’m not sure he’d find it easy to “betray” the club and leave for nothing in the PSD.

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                          • waswan
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 2047

                            Originally posted by Blood Fever
                            Will feel very uneasy if we get Daniher
                            Me too..... Dodoro should get sacked for not taking 2 picks.... we should have someone marched for offering 2 picks

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                            • Brettb
                              Pushing for Selection
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 81

                              Originally posted by Blood Fever
                              Will feel very uneasy if we get Daniher
                              Sam McLure on 3AW suggesting Brisbane are the favourites for Daniher.

                              He also stated that Brad Crouch decision is down to two, Sydney or Geelong

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                              • Mark26
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 1535

                                Originally posted by Brettb
                                Sam McLure on 3AW suggesting Brisbane are the favourites for Daniher.

                                He also stated that Brad Crouch decision is down to two, Sydney or Geelong
                                Wow! Do we want Crouch? I haven't paid much attention to him. I have to admit I don't watch many other games besides the Swans. Does he play as an inside or out mid?

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