2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[707]

based on how Daniher played on the weekend - you only want him for what he showed when played in the ruck in the last qtr. for the first 3/4 he looked disinterested or injured

Disinterested - no problems

Injured - yikes!

To get Bombers pick 7 we will have to be offering at least $750k for 2-3 years, that's a big commitment with Buddy still having two years to run but we may have room. No way do we trade for JD, he can go to the PSD for nothing, He wants to leave the spotlight in Melbourne so Crows and Norf don't suit and he doesn't even have to talk to them which is what Martin did last year in refusing to talk to Melbourne who had a pick before Carlton.

Will Brad Crouch nett Crows pick 2? The money on offer would have to be as for Daniher. Brad has had serios injury problems in the past, is a good accumulator of the ball but is one paced and ordinary disposal by foot. I don't have him in the echelon of mids to command that kind of money on the supposed five years he wants. Who are possible suitors with $ to burn? St.Kilda? Norf? Not Bombers as it would cancel out their JD compo pick. No club is trading for Crouch, he's too fragile and vanilla.

Lots to play out here, let's hope we still have pick 3 come draft night and a compo pick hasn't pushed it back. IMO no compo pick should be slotted in above the non finalists.

[Nico]

Hawthorn usually take the injured yesterday's heroes.

[707]

Hawthorn anyone.

The last thing they need is yet another one paced mid with ordinary foot disposal, already got several!

[O'Reilly Boy]

So, how many players will we have to delist, and who is most at risk?

For me:

Stoddard
Ling
Maibaum
Taylor, E
Gray (is he contracted for another year?)
Knoll
Brand
O'Riordan
Ronke

I think that Clarke, Thurlow and Fox have shown enough to be retained, and that the other Taylor was doing enough to snag a small forward role ahead of Ronke.
I feel for Ling, but think that he falls down the pecking order as it has unfolded this season. Stoddard has had two cracks and not had an impact. Maibaum I also feel for, but the back half is looking sturdier with McCartin looking very good, Mellican finding some form, Rampe to return, and Gould hopefully to have an impact. Brand? And I wonder with Thurlow, Fox and Dawson whether we need O'Riordan.
Amartey stays, and we probably have to give Reynolds and Rowles a crack.

[Ralph Dawg]

Can anyone explain to me how retirements are viewed in the AFL? For example, Buddy retires but has 2 years left on contract. Does he still get paid for those years? If so, does that then come off our cap? If he doesn't, does it still come off our cap? If a payout is negotiated, does it come off the cap?

[Blood Fever]

So, how many players will we have to delist, and who is most at risk?

For me:

Stoddard
Ling
Maibaum
Taylor, E
Gray (is he contracted for another year?)
Knoll
Brand
O'Riordan
Ronke

I think that Clarke, Thurlow and Fox have shown enough to be retained, and that the other Taylor was doing enough to snag a small forward role ahead of Ronke.
I feel for Ling, but think that he falls down the pecking order as it has unfolded this season. Stoddard has had two cracks and not had an impact. Maibaum I also feel for, but the back half is looking sturdier with McCartin looking very good, Mellican finding some form, Rampe to return, and Gould hopefully to have an impact. Brand? And I wonder with Thurlow, Fox and Dawson whether we need O'Riordan.
Amartey stays, and we probably have to give Reynolds and Rowles a crack.

Would be surprised if ORiordan was cut and I would like to keep Brand. Looked very handy in his brief appearances.

[gloveski]

Can anyone explain to me how retirements are viewed in the AFL? For example, Buddy retires but has 2 years left on contract. Does he still get paid for those years? If so, does that then come off our cap? If he doesn't, does it still come off our cap? If a payout is negotiated, does it come off the cap?

If buddy retires it comes off our cap


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[Ralph Dawg]

If buddy retires it comes off our cap


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If hubs are the new normal, months away from your normal life (outside of footy), it does make me wonder how motivated Buddy would be, given his recent injury history, new child and of course father time.

[Aprilbr]

My recollection of the Buddy deal is that we still have to keep his $ on our salary cap regardless of retirement.

On other recent comments, I will be quite surprised if we trade away our Number 3 pick. I can't see Adelaide getting a really low pick as compensation for Crouch.

I think that Daniher will leave Essendon. Whether he goes to us is another story. We are probably slight favourite now. There is no point trying to trade with Dodorro as we all know from past events, so make a reasonable offer to Daniher but not an excessive offer and see what happens. If Essendon match, which they likely won't, then so be it.

[Nico]

I doubt any club will offer more than 3 years for a player moving clubs. The trading and FA landscape has changed.

[Blood Fever]

My recollection of the Buddy deal is that we still have to keep his $ on our salary cap regardless of retirement.

On other recent comments, I will be quite surprised if we trade away our Number 3 pick. I can't see Adelaide getting a really low pick as compensation for Crouch.

I think that Daniher will leave Essendon. Whether he goes to us is another story. We are probably slight favourite now. There is no point trying to trade with Dodorro as we all know from past events, so make a reasonable offer to Daniher but not an excessive offer and see what happens. If Essendon match, which they likely won't, then so be it.

Will feel very uneasy if we get Daniher

[Markwebbos]

Bombers have just put a 4 year offer on the table for Daniher.

Not sure if that’s for his benefit or to guarantee they get pick 7 if he walks (on the basis any other club would have to beat it).

I’m not sure he’d find it easy to “betray” the club and leave for nothing in the PSD.

[waswan]

Will feel very uneasy if we get Daniher

Me too..... Dodoro should get sacked for not taking 2 picks.... we should have someone marched for offering 2 picks

[Brettb]

Will feel very uneasy if we get Daniher

Sam McLure on 3AW suggesting Brisbane are the favourites for Daniher.

He also stated that Brad Crouch decision is down to two, Sydney or Geelong

[Mark26]

Sam McLure on 3AW suggesting Brisbane are the favourites for Daniher.

He also stated that Brad Crouch decision is down to two, Sydney or Geelong

Wow! Do we want Crouch? I haven't paid much attention to him. I have to admit I don't watch many other games besides the Swans. Does he play as an inside or out mid?