2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • AnnieH
    RWOs Black Sheep
    • Aug 2006
    • 11332

    Any talk of retirements?
    Surely they would have been announced by now.

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    If Buddy retires, we STILL have to pay him for the next two years.
    Remember, Eddie the arsehole made the AFL make extra conditions after they had already approved the transfer.
    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      ..... I’m not sure if Crouch is the answer but we’ve been getting killed in clearances for some time now.
      So have the Crows!

      I'd be stunned if we are looking to pay Crouch the kind of money that will get Crows pick 2 as compo. If we are genuinely looking at Crouch then we aren't looking at Daniher, doubt we could afford both unless there's a real delisting spree to free up the money and the other spare spots are filled with cheap "hail Mary" draftees.

      If we added Crouch, Daniher, pick 3, Campbell and Gulden, that would be a wow off season, providing the two FA stay on the park!

      Fopr posters chatting about who may be delisted, a number of the players suggested have contracts for 2021 so will be staying, Gray, L Taylor, Bell, the Irishmen etc so no point suggesting them as outs.

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      Originally posted by AnnieH
      Any talk of retirements?
      Surely they would have been announced by now.

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      If Buddy retires, we STILL have to pay him for the next two years.
      Remember, Eddie the arsehole made the AFL make extra conditions after they had already approved the transfer.
      Enough of that Annie! Fat Chins is acceptable :-)

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      • bloodspirit
        Clubman
        • Apr 2015
        • 4448

        Originally posted by AnnieH
        Any talk of retirements?
        Surely they would have been announced by now.

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        If Buddy retires, we STILL have to pay him for the next two years.
        Remember, Eddie the arsehole made the AFL make extra conditions after they had already approved the transfer.

        We don't have to pay Buddy if he retires, just count his salary in our cap. From a list management point of view same thing. But from a club finances point of view, big difference.

        No chance we will take JD and Crouch, if either. Talk is Crouch is going to join Dangerfield at Geelong.

        JD is as risky a proposition as ever. It's a risk I'd be willing to take subject to due diligence and only at the right price. Realistically you'd have to consider something like 3 years at $600K p.a. Which is a lot of money for so much uncertainty both in terms of his body holding up and his attitude. I don't think I'd want us to offer more than that. If he worked out and played every game, that'd be sensational value. But we pretty much know that's not going to happen.

        I think Joey is 32 years old already (born June 1988).
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        • SwanSand
          Regular in the Side
          • Aug 2020
          • 523

          Maybe the Crouch factor is because Hewett wants to head back to Adelaide.
          We are likely to see only 4 - 5 delistings and maybe Hewett heads home.
          More delistings next year i guess.
          It would not be a bad option to go for something like this -
          Campbell, Gulden, Elijah Hollands - Draft
          Crouch and Ruck Trade in.
          It would make us very very competitive.

          If we take away the Fremantle game, we were scoring around 40 - 50 points a game through the year with practically half functional midfield, ruck and forward line. Plus the added factor of The COVID situation and lack of training together and lots of travel etc

          The backline is already looking great with McCartin, Rampe, Mills, Lloyd, Cunningham, Thurlow and Melican. Backup Brand, Riordan, O'Connor, Aliir, Dawson. I think we still need Stoddardt and Ling in there if needed. Both are reasonably good. Ling in particular will get better.

          Midfield of Kennedy, Parker, Stephens, Clarke, Rowbottom and rotating players such as JMac, Papley, Heeney. We do lack 1 - 2 genuine players in there and having Campbell and Crouch may be a big bonus. One with big body and another with speed and great kick. If Elijah Hollands is doing well from his knee perspective, get him and that would complete our midfield. Although he is probably a Halfforward rather than a true midfielder.
          Backup of Chad Warner, Sam Wicks

          Forward - We are lacking in some young talented KPF now that McCartin has gone back but i guess we need to buy one rather than develop one as it takes years to develop one. And we can still end up having someone like Mitch McGovern, Schache or Eric Hipwood who are still considered second or third KPF rather than the primary one on the list.

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          • The Runner
            Regular in the Side
            • May 2017
            • 718

            We aren't going to be active in trades this year. We don't have the picks available to us, or a player that's an asset that we're willing to move.
            I suggest considering Majak as a ruck option that's free on the open market. He never got a proper run in the ruck due to the durability of Goldstein. But he together with Aliir could form a formidable partnership of ruck/forwards.

            We need to be prepared for shifting back to pick 5. Bulldogs are #1, and Adelaide will likely get #3 as comp for Crouch (after their current #2).

            Getting Crouch is hard to judge the value in. Similar to Daniher, we can easily pay overs for one of them. Given we are already doing that for Buddy and Reid, that carries risk of squeezing out players we'd ideally keep.

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            • mattybloods
              Warming the Bench
              • Jul 2016
              • 482

              If Hewitt wants to head home to Adelaide then it would be great trading with Port. Two players I'd be interested in are Ladhams and Marshall, happy with either

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                I think majak will be hot property this trade period and end up somewhere. (Unless he has an injury problem)

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                • rb4x
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 968

                  I doubt if Hewett will be heading to Adelaide. He is from Port Broughton not Adelaide.

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                  • gloveski
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1018

                    Don’t want Hewitt going anywhere


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                    • Aprilbr
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 1803

                      I dont expect us to be too active in trades as the squad is not ready to contend. Bring in the two Academy guns plus an early pick. If we can pick up JD through free agency at a fair price then great. If not, then not the end of the world. I think Crouch will want too much money to suit us.

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6474



                        interesting

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                        interesting
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • TheBloods
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 2047

                          Originally posted by SwanSand
                          Midfield of Kennedy, Parker, Stephens, Clarke, Rowbottom and rotating players such as JMac, Papley, Heeney. We do lack 1 - 2 genuine players in there and having Campbell and Crouch may be a big bonus. One with big body and another with speed and great kick. If Elijah Hollands is doing well from his knee perspective, get him and that would complete our midfield. Although he is probably a Halfforward rather than a true midfielder.
                          Backup of Chad Warner, Sam Wicks
                          Well this is interesting as I have been called a heretic in these circles for suggesting that the answer to our future midfield might not be Florent & Rowbottom and yet the consensus seems to be that we need an elite talent in the midfield. Forgive me but if those lads are going to be as good as everyone thinks they are, why would we need to draft another ?

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Have I just read that right?
                            We have the youngest team in the comp and we didn't get one in the 22 under 22?
                            Very interesting.
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Originally posted by AnnieH
                              Have I just read that right?
                              We have the youngest team in the comp and we didn't get one in the 22 under 22?
                              Very interesting.
                              My biggest worry, is we are overrating our youngsters.

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                              • jono2707
                                Goes up to 11
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3326

                                What's with the talk of Hewitt maybe leaving? Unless there's some sort of solid evidence of a player wanting out (or others wanting in), we should be staying upfront in our posts that it's just conjecture.

                                This is RWO, not the Melbourne media, so let's at least keep some vague relationship with reality.

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