2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6474

    Merrett has some seriously elite skills and would significantly add to our midfield rotation but even more so having Dawson, Blakey, Bud and Merrett all on the field together allows us to change up our game via a mob of elite kicks.......our possession game and sling shot could go to a whole new level and expose teams like Hawthorn did there a few years back now

    BUT

    Fremantle traded Neale, as well as Pick 30, to the Brisbane Lions, who have sent Picks 6, 19 and 55 back to the Dockers............if similar is required I dont think we can afford it coming into this trade period for Merrett given Campbell and Gulden being in demand

    we would basically need to split pick 3 into something like pick 8 and Pick 15 and in return say a pick 25 to be able handle Campbell and Gulden with out a massive deficit into next year

    That would leave us picks say 22,25,54 and 56 ? to accomodate Gulden and Campbell...........which means Campbell and Gulden would really need to slide back down to say a pick 10 and pick 30 minimum and still accumulate significant a deficit = minimum say pick 30ish next year we would have to give up?

    or involve next years first round pick which maybe pick 3 to 8 in some sort of manor? ie give next years first round pick 3-8ish

    My guess is that we maybe going to use up next years first round pick for a serious player which maybe closer to pick 6 to 8 if we develop like so may supporters on this site are alluding to. If we truly bounce from 16th on the ladder to 10th that is only pick 9 we are giving away next year.

    The only reason I say that is that if we bring in pick 3 in the draft along with Gulden and Campbell that is a very top heavy youthful team that would massively benefit from another experienced player that can dominate their position in a game week in week out..........also take over from Kennedy and Bud etc retiring soon
    Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 12 October 2020, 09:54 AM.
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Originally posted by Aprilbr
      Buckenara in his list analysis of Carlton threw up the name of Parker as someone the Blues should enquire about. While he is under contract, Bucks suggested that Pick 7 plus Casboult to the Swans might be tempting to the Swans given our current re-build status. Thoughts please?
      Buckenara is yet another ex player getting a media gig that has absolutely NFI about list management and player trades. The article hasn't worth the key strokes he used to dream it up!

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6474

        Just wanting to get everyones opinion on Gulden (after watching a little of his footage on the wknd and past games)

        If Will Gould went with Pick26 as a back to back AA and SANFL Glenelg player plus captain of SA under18's.............wouldnt you guess that Gulden would slide back into pick range 30 to 40?
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4040

          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
          I find that suggestion as impressive as his coaching record.
          Silly suggestion but Buckenara was on a hiding to nothing coaching the Swans. Diabolical list if players at his disposal at that time and the club was hanging by a thread.

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          • aardvark
            Veterans List
            • Mar 2010
            • 5685

            Ben Reid has retired so I'm guessing Sam won't be wanting to play with his brother anytime soon.

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6474

              To provide us the best opportunity to start bouncing back up the ladder and given we have been on the bottom of the table two years in a row

              My ideal would be 5 or 6 players in via a mix of experience in 2020

              - Pick 3 if we are seriously bullish on all top 3 players...... or split if considered optimised for trading
              - Campbell
              - Gulden
              - McCartin Paddy nil points required?
              - trade out our first rounder next season for an experienced important player that enables us to function much better as a team (if we think this will be pick 6 to 8? and not a strong draft?). This could also bring in another pick say 15 to 20 this season in this trade.........this could be crucial for not deficit next year?
              - Ruckman minimal points or FA etc

              I have been wondering about the Swans Kennedy rumours i heard a couple of months ago are true?.... if it is true that he would like to head back to Melb in 2021?

              I wonder if like the Hawks and Geelong assisting champion players near retirement over last 5-7 years if this may be something we would facilitate also?
              Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 12 October 2020, 10:17 AM.
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                No Park(er)ing!
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • Mr Magoo
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2008
                  • 1255

                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  Just wanting to get everyones opinion on Gulden (after watching a little of his footage on the wknd and past games)

                  If Will Gould went with Pick26 as a back to back AA and SANFL Glenelg player plus captain of SA under18's.............wouldnt you guess that Gulden would slide back into pick range 30 to 40?
                  I tend to agree with this but with little exposure of the Vic kids he may hold higher than would be normally expected. Its a weird draft year as the word is that they will push the talent programme out to u19 and u17 so those with exposed form may be taken higher than normal with the expectation that those without can fall through until next year now.

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                  • Captain
                    Captain of the Side
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3602

                    Originally posted by Aprilbr
                    Buckenara in his list analysis of Carlton threw up the name of Parker as someone the Blues should enquire about. While he is under contract, Bucks suggested that Pick 7 plus Casboult to the Swans might be tempting to the Swans given our current re-build status. Thoughts please?
                    Yeah not keen.

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Originally posted by Aprilbr
                      Buckenara in his list analysis of Carlton threw up the name of Parker as someone the Blues should enquire about. While he is under contract, Bucks suggested that Pick 7 plus Casboult to the Swans might be tempting to the Swans given our current re-build status. Thoughts please?
                      Not casboult, he's already 30. But if they offered pick 7 and a good player under 23, I'd take that deal.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Originally posted by barry
                        Not casboult, he's already 30. But if they offered pick 7 and a good player under 23, I'd take that deal.
                        Pick 7 and de Koning?

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11328

                          Originally posted by Aprilbr
                          Buckenara in his list analysis of Carlton threw up the name of Parker as someone the Blues should enquire about. While he is under contract, Bucks suggested that Pick 7 plus Casboult to the Swans might be tempting to the Swans given our current re-build status. Thoughts please?
                          I for one don't listen to what Buckerina says. Was the worst coach we have ever had. His credibilty is worthless. My opinion only.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • Melbourne_Blood
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 3312

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            Pick 7 and de Koning?
                            I like that, but that’s in a fantasy world where Parker is even considering leaving or us letting him go


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                            • Nico
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11328

                              Originally posted by Blood Fever
                              Silly suggestion but Buckenara was on a hiding to nothing coaching the Swans. Diabolical list if players at his disposal at that time and the club was hanging by a thread.
                              Disagree. The players we woefully unfit and Barassi said so. They were gone after 15 minutes into the first quarter. Once they got an acceptable fitness level they started to become competitive.
                              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                              • Markwebbos
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                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                                I like that, but that’s in a fantasy world where Parker is even considering leaving or us letting him go
                                Clubs have asked the question before...

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