2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Aaron]

Unless Will Hayward will be traded out, these targets do not make a lot of sense to me

[707]

On twitter someone posted that they had heard a rumour that Will Hayward is looking to return to SA .

If he is then Ollie Florent is going as well, joined at the hip! Maybe it's both of them for Crows pick 8

[Scottee]

It is strange that not one Giants player has ever come to the Swans.

This year feels like one where that might change, due to the mini exodus underway.

Harry C was a GWS selection.

Sent from my SM-T805Y using Tapatalk

[giant]

I had to have a quick look on Wikipedia to refresh my memory about his illustrious non-career with the Swans. And it turns out we drafted him as a rookie after he was delisted by the Bombers (who took him from GW$).

To be more precise, I meant not one player has come to the Swans directly from the Giants. Have I missed anyone?

Harry "Richie" C came out of their Academy I believe. Fab as he is, it doesn't compare to the riches that the larger Melbourne clubs have stripped out of the expansion clubs.

[KSAS]

Might indeed be a list from a couple of years ago considering that Townsend has left Richmond and is now playing for Essendon

My bad, i'd forgotten Townsend is at Essendon

- - - Updated - - -

List also mentioned Melbourne & Norf are sniffing Jayden Stephenson as Pies need to do salary dump in order to re-sign DeGoey & Darcy Moore.

[giant]

On twitter someone posted that they had heard a rumour that Will Hayward is looking to return to SA .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A Hayward family friend told me last year he was homesick and not happy with the way his injuries had been treated - a couple of weeks later he signed a contract extension...so who the hell knows I guess?

[Ralph Dawg]

FWIW Andy Mahr on SEN this afternoon read out an extensive list of players who might be on the move and the clubs who are linked with them. This list was apparently emailed to Andy from a prominent AFL official who compiled the list. It was too long a list that he read out for me to remember all the players & linked clubs, but from a Swans perspective it was mentioned we're linked to Jacob Townsend (Rich), Alex Neal-Bullen (Melb) & Mason Wood (NM - who is a DFA i think?). Other clubs were linked to these players as well. It also mentioned Pruess is also being courted by a couple of Melb based clubs in addition with us & GWS (i mentioned Hawthorn being one interested club in earlier post.

Of these, Jacob Townsend would be my pick. He would provide good forward pressure and knows his way around goals. If we could pick him up (or someone similar) for nothing, then trade out Hayward for a second rounder or Roble for a third rounder, the net result would be a positive for us.

- - - Updated - - -

Roble = Ronke

[The Runner]

We stole Buddy out of their back pocket. Then when they've had their player exodus, we've had no cap space (for top end talent) or the ability to trade players in for the mid tier value until recently. Highly unlikely there's any agreement after the animosity over Buddy.

Anyone who's watched Zak Jones first 7 quarters of finals footy at the Saints, will see we aren't missing out on much at all. Similar to Tom Mitchell - overhyped now at a Melbourne club.

[MattW]

We stole Buddy out of their back pocket. Then when they've had their player exodus, we've had no cap space (for top end talent) or the ability to trade players in for the mid tier value until recently. Highly unlikely there's any agreement after the animosity over Buddy.

Anyone who's watched Zak Jones first 7 quarters of finals footy at the Saints, will see we aren't missing out on much at all. Similar to Tom Mitchell - overhyped now at a Melbourne club.

Agree on the second par. Melbourne journalists hadn't paid attention to Jones until he played for St Kilda.

Nothing has changed - he rarely makes a winning impact in big games. Hanners still has class and poise, but I can't really blame us for how we played that hand.

[AB Swannie]

Of these, Jacob Townsend would be my pick. He would provide good forward pressure and knows his way around goals. If we could pick him up (or someone similar) for nothing, then trade out Hayward for a second rounder or Roble for a third rounder, the net result would be a positive for us.

- - - Updated - - -

Roble = Ronke

Sorry but no way is this an upgrade. Townsend is a 27 year old journeyman who struggled to play regularly for Essendon. He has kicked a career total of 41 goals. On the other hand, Hayward is 21, entering his prime and already has better stats than Townsend across the board.

[Nico]

Townsend can't get a game for the Injectors. No thanks.

[Mark26]

I don't want to lose Hayward either. I feel as though he was starting to play his way into form the second half of this season after being thrown in the backline. Lots of upside. And he has the longest contract at the moment. It says we see the upside and want him here long term.

[aardvark]

I'd be very surprised if we trade in anyone of note. We just need to have a good draft result and an injury free pre season.

[Aprilbr]

I tend to agree that we should avoid trading in journey men for the sake of it. Only exception is a ruck but I'm not keen on Hickey. Our recent record in trading in journey men is very average.

We are far better focusing on the Academy players and the draft. Once we have the list ready to take a step into finals (at least one year away) then we can go after a big name from elsewhere. Our Cap position may be looking better by then too!

[troyjones2525]

As someone posted earlier, the Sydney AFL are streaming their grand finals today on their Facebook page so we'll get to see Errol play in the seniors game for the Bulldogs.

Something I find interesting. I just watched the video on the Sydney AFL facebook page of the Phelan Medal count. Former Academy player Jake Bartholomaeus won the count with 16 votes and in 2nd place was Errol Gulden with 12 votes.

The interesting thing is that Braeden Campbell did not receive 1 vote in the entire count!

Now I am unsure if he played many games (or any) in the Premier League but if so, I find it a little strange that he is rated to be drafted way above Gulden even though Errol's consistent strong performances clearly outweigh his.

I'm thinking the old 'potential' factor is at play here as well as A LOT of the old height bias coming into play....

Even so, I'm happy to draft Errol at a discount as I think he's going to be a sensational AFL footballer if, and I mean IF, we let him loose!

Sent from my SM-G977B using Tapatalk