2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Ludwig]

Agree Big Cat. The delistings need to come from Senior Players who do not have a contract. e.g. Brand, Foot, Ling, Stoddart and Ronke would head that list. I think at least four of those will get delisted if not all five. Moving any to the rookie list does involve delisting them and trusting that they will still be available and rarely is used for more than one player. None of the above five have much trade value.

The players you've are highly unlikely to be delisted. Foot is an outside chance, but I think we'll keep him, and Ronke might be traded.

Where delistings come from is only superficially relevant. It's more a matter of list manipulation between primary and rookie lists. This happens at every club to make lists comply with AFL dictates and is never challenged by AFL. More about form over substance.

To give a couple of examles:

• Brody Mihocek has played 3 years and all of his 58 games with Collingwood frin their rookie list.
• Lachie Henderson is 30 years old was moved Geelong's rookie list last year, via delisting and redrafting.

I don't recall any player drafted by another club when the delisting club announces their intent to redraft the player as a rookie.

[TheBloods]

If the club with a staunch no dickheads policy doesn’t cut the guy who breached quarantine procedure and also plead guilty to the assault of a woman, I’d be very surprised. If he isn’t cut he still doesn’t play another game for us, and he still has zero trade currency.


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i would hope so but as i said, concerned that the club hasn't acted already. I trust the club to do the right thing but the longer we go without cutting him the more i worry he will be a Swan in 2021.

[bloodspirit]

If the club with a staunch no dickheads policy doesn’t cut the guy who breached quarantine procedure and also plead guilty to the assault of a woman, I’d be very surprised. If he isn’t cut he still doesn’t play another game for us, and he still has zero trade currency.


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I don't know that we have a staunch no dickheads policy these days, if we ever did (I think it was always overblown), but we do value good character and competitiveness, not just skill and athleticism (as of course all clubs do).

[Ludwig]

i would hope so but as i said, concerned that the club hasn't acted already. I trust the club to do the right thing but the longer we go without cutting him the more i worry he will be a Swan in 2021.

Taylor's been stood down since his arrest. Now that he's a convicted felon, I doubt he will be with the club next year. I don't think he will be delisted, but rather terminated due to breach of contract. His AFL career might be over, at least till he puts in a few years of good behaviour. He has a long road ahead of him to make that happen.

[Nico]

Taylor's been stood down since his arrest. Now that he's a convicted felon, I doubt he will be with the club next year. I don't think he will be delisted, but rather terminated due to breach of contract. His AFL career might be over, at least till he puts in a few years of good behaviour. He has a long road ahead of him to make that happen.

Bit strange that there has been no news on a delisting.

[TheBloods]

Taylor's been stood down since his arrest. Now that he's a convicted felon, I doubt he will be with the club next year. I don't think he will be delisted, but rather terminated due to breach of contract. His AFL career might be over, at least till he puts in a few years of good behaviour. He has a long road ahead of him to make that happen.

Then if it was that clear cut why can't the club be transparent and just announce that he will not be a Swan? We are all assuming that the club will take this tough stance but do we actually have any evidence that the club is going to do this ???

[Markwebbos]

Bit strange that there has been no news on a delisting.

aren't they waiting until after the Bob Skilton medal tomorrow night.

[Melbourne_Blood]

I don't know that we have a staunch no dickheads policy these days, if we ever did (I think it was always overblown), but we do value good character and competitiveness, not just skill and athleticism (as of course all clubs do).

You may be right. The Fact is we have hardly gone near a player ( buddy excluded, but generational player so different story ) with any whiff of bad behaviour about them for a long time.

Until drafting ET who had some question marks over work ethic, behaviour etc.
And this had backfired spectacularly. It sucks as it will discourage us from risk taking recruiting for a long while and many of these type of gambles have paid off for clubs in recent time’s.


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[Markwebbos]

You may be right. The Fact is we have hardly gone near a player ( buddy excluded, but generational player so different story ) with any whiff of bad behaviour about them for a long time.

Until drafting ET who had some question marks over work ethic, behaviour etc.
And this had backfired spectacularly. It sucks as it will discourage us from risk taking recruiting for a long while and many of these type of gambles have paid off for clubs in recent time’s.


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Leaving aside Michael Talia, although that went Pete Tong after we acquired him.

I wonder with ET whether the plan was to take a calculated risk, keep a very tight rein on him, accommodate him with Buddy etc (in a similar way to players at Richmond), and Covid put paid to that.

[Nico]

aren't they waiting until after the Bob Skilton medal tomorrow night.

I am alluding to ET. Why wait until after the count.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Leaving aside Michael Talia, although that went Pete Tong after we acquired him.

I wonder with ET whether the plan was to take a calculated risk, keep a very tight rein on him, accommodate him with Buddy etc (in a similar way to players at Richmond), and Covid put paid to that.

Even Talia was slightly different. That was more an alleged ‘ insider trading’ thing before we recruited him. He obviously shat in our face after that.


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[The Big Cat]

I am alluding to ET. Why wait until after the count.

He might win best first year player and needs to there to collect his trophy.

[gloveski]

P. McCartin is seeing Billy Brownless' daughter. Billy's ex wife is currently in a relationship with his ex friend Garry Lyon... (That was a messy situation!). So Lyon may have insight into what McCartin is thinking.

My bad I dont know why I thought it was Spud Frawley’s daughter [emoji848]


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[Markwebbos]

I am alluding to ET. Why wait until after the count.

Not sure he can be delisted.

[aardvark]

ET gets sentenced in December. Not sure he'll be much use to us in prison. There's a bit to play out I reckon. Maybe the AFL will deregister him.