2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[barry]

Mason Wood sounds like a good replacement for Allir. How old is he?

[aardvark]

Mason Wood sounds like a good replacement for Allir. How old is he?

Averaged 6 games a year for 7 years. Ravaged by injury. Seven years, 42 games, one determined Kangaroo

Pass!

[The Runner]

Mason Wood sounds like a good replacement for Allir. How old is he?

In what world is that a replacement? Nothing alike in playing style at all.

If we hadn't taken Hickey, I would have hoped we'd have explored Daw as a short term ruck option. Could have been a much cheaper option. But, that's not likely now. Not sure any other delisted players are really of interest for us.

[SwanSand]

In what world is that a replacement? Nothing alike in playing style at all.

If we hadn't taken Hickey, I would have hoped we'd have explored Daw as a short term ruck option. Could have been a much cheaper option. But, that's not likely now. Not sure any other delisted players are really of interest for us.

We should only cherry pick someone who has potential of slotting into the team or with potential of becoming a regular contributor because we see something in them and he needs to be in the right age bracket 20-24. The only player we could have traded for or listed from the >26 year category was a ruckman - which is already taken care of.
I am sure after the draft we would be looking at the rookie list in detail and see who is available.

[Ludwig]

Picking up Dylan Clarke as a DFA means that we would be placing him on the Senior list where we do not have positions available. .

This Dylan Clarke thing has gotten out of hand. No one suggested he should be recruited. He was just used as an example of how DFA recruiting works.

Pick 3, Campbell, Gulden, rookie McCartin Snr & Papley Jnr - done

A handy haul

Not so fast! We only have 3 spots right now, so every additional player requires another delisting. ET is the most obvious, but not really clear at all. It would also be a good idea to keep an open spot on our list for supplemental signings and drafts. Paddy McCartin is worth considering, but I can't see a spot for little Paps.

Mason Wood sounds like a good replacement for Allir. How old is he?

You have the wrong list in front of you. Get the GWS list out. He sounds like a good replacement for Jeremy Cameron. Mason Wood is still young. He has a lot of poor footy sill left in him.

[Markwebbos]

I can understand the attraction of bringing in BOT, but I'd rather we took a punt on someone like Henry Walsh if he makes it through to the rookie draft (hmmm unlikely). Has anyone been able to figure out how many rookie spots we might have available.

I don't think Mason Wood is a complete waste of time, 1 year older than AA, but more of a forward than a defender, and allegedly with huge endurance. Can take a mark, if he can get on the park. He's claiming he's finally got over a whole range of issues and will be fit next year.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/524966/maligned-former-roo-has-a-point-to-prove-in-bid-for-career-lifeline

The other consideration with list sizes is keeping a spot open for some form of mid-season draft next year, which will have rich pickings of the VIC kids who no one saw play this year. Draft bolters that never got the chance to bolt this year, will bolt into the mid-season draft.

[barry]

Averaged 6 games a year for 7 years. Ravaged by injury. Seven years, 42 games, one determined Kangaroo

Pass!

Yeah. I mistook him for Easton Wood. who can also be mistaken for a deciduous box tree on the great dividing range.

[Auntie.Gerald]

MW our challenge in the mid season draft is that vic boys stay in vic

[Ralph Dawg]

So we are almost certainties to take pick 3 to the draft. The more I think about it, the more I think we need to not worry about the go home factor. If he's not an off field risk, pick the best player, pure and simple. Let's not get too cute.

KB waxing lyrical about Bruhn has me worried. I have read of no one else rating him in the top 5 (6 including JUH) and he's been injured. If we want a comparable player, surely Phillips is much more credentialed. Hollands could fill the need as well. Bruhn would typical of our usual left field selection contrary to what everyone thinks. A bit like last year when we could've got Serong. I like Stephens but Serong looks a class above and he was a Swans fan!

[Mark26]

Meanwhile on the other side of the globe, COR's gearing up to play soon. Here's a follow-up article about how he might be utilised.

McStay: Starting O'Riordan a calculated Premier risk

[longmile]

So we are almost certainties to take pick 3 to the draft. The more I think about it, the more I think we need to not worry about the go home factor. If he's not an off field risk, pick the best player, pure and simple. Let's not get too cute.

KB waxing lyrical about Bruhn has me worried. I have read of no one else rating him in the top 5 (6 including JUH) and he's been injured. If we want a comparable player, surely Phillips is much more credentialed. Hollands could fill the need as well. Bruhn would typical of our usual left field selection contrary to what everyone thinks. A bit like last year when we could've got Serong. I like Stephens but Serong looks a class above and he was a Swans fan!

Serong was a late slider. Must pundits in October and November had him going around pick 8 or later which was after our pick.

I would love to have Serong! Looks like a real bloods player. He may come to us ... one day ...

I honestly hope for a conservative pick this year, as opposed to our usual left field shenanigans. Thilthorpe looks exactly like what we need and Hollands looks like an elite midfielder in the making.

[wolftone57]

Here is the highlights package for Denver Grainger-Barras:

He's very good isn't he. Apparently he and Mcdonald had a ding dong battle in the WAFL with Barabas getting the best of Macca. He is not just an intercept defender as he was able to intercept, keep his man under control and spoil. So he I is an all round defender. I loathe it when a player is only rated on one part of their game when their talent is far greater. This bloke's talent is far greater than an intercept player. He is also a top lock down defender and a great spoiler. As well as that his delivery is superb. I'm impressed.

I was more interested in The Till to pay dividends but maybe we go with this bloke and develop Amartey and McLean. Play Heeney at FF. Turn him into a leading FF with Hayward in the pocket spoiling. Hayward is great one on one and a long ball will find Will high up in the clouds. At junior level I watched footage of him taking screamers and he has the uncanny ability to pull marks out if nowhere. Whereas, we know Heens is a huge mark, Heens is a fantastic lead. He has the ability to go to the right spots and with so many new players being able to direct the ball to the right spot, and even direct the player leading in, he could kick a ton. I am serious about this.

The spot we need to develop is CHF. Because the SCG was so short before the upgrade CHF was virtually unneeded. But now we have found, to our detriment, that we need to play the SCG a little differently and CHF is now a go to position. I think if we develop Amartey, he has so much upside and talls always take longer, we could have a big talent at CHF to play those big grounds like Perth and Docklands. McLean has a couple of problems that czn be addressed by working with a sprint coach. He is slow and awkward off the mark. So was Toby Nankervis but not now. His reflexes, as with Tobumy, are very good. But needs to cover the ground far faster. I think that can be achieved with the help of a sprint coach and I think he should get a ballet coach to make his musculature much more supple. Amartey has none of those concerns. He is quick, reacts fast and is massive in pack attack. His ability to avoid the tackler for such a big guy is amazing. Once he gets the pace look out.

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[wolftone57]

Been out with a groin for the last part of the SANFL season. No club knows more about Thilthorpe than the Crows so if they don't take him at pick 2 (after bidding on the draft's best player JUH) then you'd have to wonder, particularly with the "go home" problems they constantly have, a problem that will be exacerbated as they start the long road off the bottom.

Doubt McDonald gets past North, so it could be Hollands who I really like, DGB if we bite the bullet for an intercept defender at pick 3, or Phillips who as a 17yo was not far behind Rowell and Anderson.

We should get a gem at pick 3, plus Campbell and Gulden, should be a Golden draft :-) I'd like Papley Jnr with a late pick, Swans man through and through.

Paddy McCartin, for those that asked, can be added for free as a delisted player. Our current pick 82 will be in points bearing territory by the time Gulden gets a bid.

I doubt we will take a player coming off an ACL we got bitten by that a couple of years ago and the player never played a game.

I think we are desperate for a tall. I doubt we go small.

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[wolftone57]

As long as no3 pick is not a Gasper leave or Fitzgerald, Vespremi, Johnston, Rohan, Lamb, Towers first pick situation we will be fine

ps - watch the media swing its attention to bashing us and our academy picks now that Bucks came out and cleared the air !

the frenzy begins - this is a media perfect storm rebound picking on the 3rd last team from 2020

no3 pick
Campbell no 8ish
Gulden no20ish

if Paddy McCartin - delisted player for free will be made out to be like recruiting Tippett

if little Paps joins he will be the next best small forward in the game

I think we can take Paddy and Little Paps as Rookies. Paddy in the preseason and Little Paps in the draft if he does not get picked up. We could take him with our last pick but I doubt it as Kinnear has already said we take 3 only in the draft. That means Puck 3, Campbell and Gulden. In the preseason Paddy and if Lil Paps gets through to the Rookies we take him.

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[wolftone57]

For those wondering about us taking a defender at pick 3/4, here's Knightmares draft profile from the above ESPN link. I'd be happy with this

"This year's top key defender, Grainger-Barras is athletic and impressive both as a stopper and intercept mark. His game in the WAFL against Perth key forward Logan McDonald solidified his standing as one of the best in this draft pool - when moved onto McDonald in the third quarter he either won each one-on-one contest, spoiled or took the intercept mark when they were matched up."

Chris Doerre (Knightmare) really rates Campbell and Gulden noting their kicking skills, thank you very much, nice pair to add to laser boot Dawson and Blakey. Buddy will be loving those passes

If you look at recent drafting most are pretty good kicks. George is super. Dawson the best kick in the AFL. Hayward is a wonderful foot pass. Lloyd, as much as people bag him, still has a 79% efficiency rating. People only remember the howlers because they are memorable. Shaw, Macca, Marty & Mal did them too. Gould, Stephens, Foot, Rowbottom. Melican, Ramps, MacInerney, Bell, Blakey, Fox, Ling, Ronke, Thurlow and Wicks all good deliverers. Add Campbell and Gulden, who are apparently somewhere near Dawson class and I can see Heens kicking 100 out of FF.

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